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by wtfluff
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: I'm here to listen and learn
Replies: 56
Views: 50261

Re: I'm here to listen and learn

Yes, as others have mentioned, we know that Joseph was sealed to men posthumously. It also appears that Joseph taught and performed adoption in Nauvoo, for example: "I have not felt satisfied, neither did President Taylor, neither has any man since the Prophet Joseph who has attended to the ordinan...
by wtfluff
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mysterious encounters with EQ
Replies: 9
Views: 4762

Re: Mysterious encounters with EQ

Culper Jr. wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:13 pm
My experience too. I'm the executive secretary in the ward, and I am pretty open about my lack of belief. ... <SNIP>
The world needs more executive secretaries like Culper Jr.!
by wtfluff
Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: CTB = WTF
Replies: 12
Views: 4399

Re: CTB = WTF

you can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into. Sorry, but I have to rebut this saying every time I read it: If it were actually "True™", I would not be here, and many other NOMies would not be here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Fair enough - and obviously I wouldn't be here if it never ...
by wtfluff
Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: CTB = WTF
Replies: 12
Views: 4399

Re: CTB = WTF

This new wave of Choose To Believe rhetoric makes no sense to me. 1- I used to believe in Santa Claus. 2- I no longer believe in Santa Claus. 3- I DID NOT choose to stop believing in Santa Claus. 4- I really want Santa Claus to be real, but... 5- I CANNOT choose to believe in Santa Clause Maybe hum...
by wtfluff
Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: I'm here to listen and learn
Replies: 56
Views: 50261

Re: I'm here to listen and learn

... Joseph being adoption-sealed to men ... Do you have any references for this? The Law of Adoption: The sealing of men and women as children to prominent Latter-day Saint leaders Thanks Pirate! I'm not really looking for the Fairmormon explanation of the law of adoption, I understand what the law...
by wtfluff
Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: I'm here to listen and learn
Replies: 56
Views: 50261

Re: I'm here to listen and learn

LeoWinegar wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:48 pm
... Joseph being adoption-sealed to men ...
Do you have any references for this?
by wtfluff
Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does truth really matter?
Replies: 63
Views: 24923

Re: Does truth really matter?

So... Truth doesn't matter.

Here's a question for those that think truth doesn't matter: Do you want to believe in things which are true?
by wtfluff
Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Stake Center burns.
Replies: 19
Views: 9783

Re: Stake Center burns.

I'm confused. It says "the stake center that is being built in the vicinity of 300 East and 400 South," but that church was being built when I was 7, and moved up to SLC the 2nd or 3rd of Sept 1964. And the pictures look like the one I'm talking about (across the street to the east of the temple). ...
by wtfluff
Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Stake Center burns.
Replies: 19
Views: 9783

Re: Stake Center burns.

A couple days later, fire NOT confirmed as arson (nothing confirmed at that point...)

Edit: Another Link with a cool time-lapse of the event.
by wtfluff
Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Reddit post- Something I never noticed
Replies: 9
Views: 3817

Re: Reddit post- Something I never noticed

Hagoth wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:36 pm
All I get from that link is "service unavailable." Maybe the avenging angel has been unloosed on Reddit.
Just Reddit having some issues. Keep trying if you're really interested...
by wtfluff
Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does truth really matter?
Replies: 63
Views: 24923

Re: Does truth really matter?

Red Ryder wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:06 pm
Do facts matter? Yes
Does truth matter? No
What's the difference between "truth" and "facts?"

Is there such thing as a "true fact?"

:twisted:
by wtfluff
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How are we not talking about this
Replies: 23
Views: 11321

Re: How are we not talking about this

Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:48 pm
the first story currently on LDS dot org

https://www.lds.org/blog/a-message-of-g ... 9?lang=eng
I'm not reading through that drivel, so yeah... Nothing to talk aboot.
by wtfluff
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Patriarchal Blessings?
Replies: 15
Views: 5948

Re: Patriarchal Blessings?

I don't remember any fancy first resurrection, or Jesus stuff, I guess I'm going to to have to go find my mormon semi-cold psychic reading and see if I've forgotten those. One funny statement is that I have the gift of reaching out to those who have "left the fold" and bringing them back. I guess I ...
by wtfluff
Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Just got back from the new endowment Powerpoint presentation
Replies: 25
Views: 11739

Re: Just got back from the new endowment Powerpoint presentation

The first time I went though I did NOT have a good experience. The only tolerable part was seeing my family in the C-Room at the end. I was confused, blindsided, dazed, I thought I had messed up some of the stuff I was supposed to say in my head. All that after I had faithfully attended every singl...
by wtfluff
Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does truth really matter?
Replies: 63
Views: 24923

Re: Does truth really matter?

The objectivity of fact is not the whole story. Surely an acceptance and awareness of the truth matters? ... Well, again, we would have to have to define "truth" wouldn't we? And it would seem that acceptance and awareness of truth doesn't matter to some people. It might be to their detriment, but ...
by wtfluff
Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does truth really matter?
Replies: 63
Views: 24923

Re: Does truth really matter?

However, people don't always want medical truths either - consider people who smoke and cite the evidence of their 90 year old uncle who has smoked since he was ten years of age and was knocked over by a bus. And evidenced-based medicine isn't a given either e.g. drug trials funded by big pharma, p...
by wtfluff
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does truth really matter?
Replies: 63
Views: 24923

Re: Does truth really matter?

Does truth really matter when our brains are wired to support our own cognitive bias? Does truth really matter that much? I don't believe it does anymore. Someone please convince me I'm wrong! What's your definition of "truth?" I think you'd likely agree that there are "truths" that are currently p...
by wtfluff
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Stake Center burns.
Replies: 19
Views: 9783

Re: Stake Center burns.

Will the Church be able to rebuild the structure keeping the intact brick walls? More importantly, were the pictures of Jesus miraculously not burned in the inferno? Haha. It will be fun to see if any "relics" are produced. The urban legends / faith promoting stories that are made up after events l...
by wtfluff
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Alcohol Content of Beer in Utah vs Walmart
Replies: 59
Views: 41523

Re: Alcohol Content of Beer in Utah vs Walmart

They don't have "separate" production lines. When a brewery switches from a higher ABV beverage to a lower ABV beverage, they have to "steralize" the entire production line. That would make sense given brewing beer is a batch process. The issue will be that there won't be enough demand for 4.0% ABV...
by wtfluff
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Stake Center burns.
Replies: 19
Views: 9783

Re: Stake Center burns.

moksha wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:30 pm
Will the Church be able to rebuild the structure keeping the intact brick walls?
Doubt it:

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