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It's better to have wrestled...and lost...than to have played basketball. Why not both? I've been out of Utah so long I didn't even know anybody still did church ball. All I heard in the local stakes was that they cancelled it XX years ago because it was too competitive and people were mean to each...

Role play with your kids on using the proper name of the church? Mormons can be silly creatures.

Spreading the good word - I like it! I know there was a comment on Reddit about putting a name to the material, but I wonder if this person wouldn't have reached out if it was somebody he knew?

"Hmm - I wonder where they got the water to drink for all those people and animals?"

Unless the church puts it in one of their main publications it never happened. And if by chance a TBM stumbles upon it from an outside source it will be dismissed as not being credible. I found this to be the case with my own family. When I shared a Trib article describing the Joseph Bishop case (a...

Good lord that's difficult to read without throwing something. If Joseph didn't marry them for sex, if it was just to provide salvation to others - why didn't Emma know? Doesn't seem like she'd have a hard time with him bringing other people into a non-sexual familial relationship. Worse - if it was...

The first time I'd considered it, well and truly considered it, was when my mom told me I needed to go talk with the bishop for having sex with my girlfriend. It was so serious, she told me, that I may have to face church discipline which could include excommunication or disfellowship. I was 17.

I've been out of Utah so long I didn't even know anybody still did church ball. All I heard in the local stakes was that they cancelled it XX years ago because it was too competitive and people were mean to each other and the referees.

I have to say, I agree with Corsair here.He phrased it better than I possibly could have.

Amazing experience. Bill said everyone agreed that he was telling the truth and that they cannot deny that church leaders are lying. The SP expressed distress that he was forced to side with the church rather than the truth. Bill said he believes a few HC shelves broke. I have to wonder now, if tho...

Congratulations on this. We've all been there I think, but just knowing you are in a similar place as the other can be such a relief.

I'm sorry you're stuck in that place. I've also enjoyed having this space to vent and discuss. My own activity here has waned of late, though for different reasons than your own. I've enjoyed your posts and the conversations with you here.

I keep wondering how people on the counsel who know Bill aren't seriously conflicted about spiritually hacking him to pieces for eternity, but I imagine they are repeating over and over in their heads, " It is better that one man should perish than that a nation should dwindle and perish in unbelie...

I think the paper who publishes this crazy talk is really to blame for giving an extremist a platform. She quotes Nazis in her argument when Nazis put LGBTQ people in concentration camps! Pink triangle. Why on earth would a local newspaper in 2018 give voice to such insanity? My landlord in my offi...

I think the paper who publishes this crazy talk is really to blame for giving an extremist a platform. She quotes Nazis in her argument when Nazis put LGBTQ people in concentration camps! Pink triangle. Why on earth would a local newspaper in 2018 give voice to such insanity? My landlord in my offi...

Credit where it's due though, the paper seems to be letting her spew this bullshit solely to point out the idiocy of it, judging by the editor's note: Editor’s note: Many readers will find the following letter to the editor offensive. The Herald Journal is publishing it in the interest of fostering ...

I don't say this often in this particular venue because I know I'm in polite company, but that lady can fuck right off. I hope to be one of the elements of society (not LGBTQ+ myself, but they need support from all kinds of people) that tears down and destroys those awful elements of the culture. I ...

Maybe this is a step in the road toward "getting better." Can you live with the idea that your spouse stays in the church and believes - if so, this could very well be a point of reconciliation for the two of you, not one to fight over. My recommendation would be not to criticize her faith, attack t...

My sister texted DW a few weeks back and asked if our 4yo was going to be in the primary program this year.

DW's complete text response?: "No"

It hasn't come up since.

Maybe heaven is like Warren Jeff’s compound. There’s only actually 30 or so people that make it to exaltation. All of the women named Lucy are given to one guy, all the Ruth’s to another, etc. Women don’t need to know their husband’s new name because it’s irrelevant. They’re going to be given to som...