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- Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:18 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Marriage Masturbation
- Replies: 28
- Views: 17865
Re: Marriage Masturbation
I'm not sure about everyone, but giving a hand is not how the marriages I am familiar with work...
- Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:10 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Degrees of Sexual Assault
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8271
Re: Degrees of Sexual Assault
As a rape trauma counselor, I found it was often the date rape victims who were most harmed, not the jogger who has someone jump out of the bushes. With the jogger, she knows it was not her fault and the rapist is a stranger. With a stranger, no relationship of trust was violated. With a stranger, ...
- Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:02 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Degrees of Sexual Assault
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8271
Degrees of Sexual Assault
When discussing consent at a family gathering one of my BILs brought up that there is a difference between the jogger who gets abducted and raped and the girl who is happy on third base but then her BF steals home. I'm not sure how I feel about this. In one sense I agree that there is a difference, ...
- Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:37 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Apostles and perfection
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9803
Re: Apostles and perfection
It seems like they are deliberately obtuse sometimes. It allows them to ignore legitimate issues by falsely equating unequal things. Like equating the point that apostles don't speak directly to Jesus as many believe to requiring apostles to be perfect. I have a brother (different than the one sched...
- Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:52 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Bishopric Brother Scheduled to Teach Chastity to Beehives
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8898
Re: Bishopric Brother Scheduled to Teach Chastity to Beehives
No mention of cupcakes whatsoever! Why would a member of the bishopric be tasked to deliver such a lesson to the girls? Do boys get similar lessons? I agree with your questions. I am guessing that some bishop in DB's ward didn't want to make the YW leaders tackle a tough lesson, so he put it on the...
- Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:57 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Back to school blessings...
- Replies: 14
- Views: 8212
Re: Back to school blessings...
My wife and I have switched to "special prayers" instead of blessings. I hold my kid and pray for the same things I would have blessed him with. I no longer believe anyone but my family is listening, but it gives my kids good feelings and helps them know we love them. We let our 7 year old do one fo...
- Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:34 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: TBMs Want to be Good
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1574
TBMs Want to be Good
My TBMs want desperately to be good. TBMs in general do, which is why many are so comfortable claiming the moral high ground in any discussion, even if their position is immoral. The problem is that TBMs have to incorporate immoral things into their morality because of their belief in the church. Th...
- Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:02 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Bishopric Brother Scheduled to Teach Chastity to Beehives
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8898
Bishopric Brother Scheduled to Teach Chastity to Beehives
He brought this up at a family gathering yesterday. He is clearly, and appropriately, uncomfortable. His plan is to be as unspecific as possible, mostly just point out that having feelings is normal and good and ok, and refer the girls to their parents. I gave him some thoughts about including conse...
- Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:41 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Book of Abraham at Education Week
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6393
Book of Abraham at Education Week
My parents are attending education week. A few weeks ago my dad was talking about the Book of Abraham and we talked about it's origin. This morning he mentioned that he went to an education week class about it yesterday and had another he would be attending today. They talked about how most of the s...
- Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:33 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: In which Spouseman trolled my FIL
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6016
Re: In which Spouseman trolled my FIL
Hahaha!! That is awesome!
- Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:59 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Having an 8yo baptism, or not.
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7709
Re: Having an 8yo baptism, or not.
The 8 year old age and development argument doesn't really bother me in the traditional exmo sense. I get it. I do. It just doesn't bother me because baptism in the "no thinking required" Mormon church is a singular religious event designed like a gate. If you select yes and open the gate, you're i...
- Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:01 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: DS is getting hitched
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6628
Re: DS is getting hitched
Hang in there Slavereeno!
Congrats on the wedding!
Sorry it brings mixed feelings...
Congrats on the wedding!
Sorry it brings mixed feelings...
- Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:58 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: I am now in a live and let live phase of my journey. Where are you?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5609
Re: I am now in a live and let live phase of my journey. Where are you?
When I first realized I didn't believe I just ignored it for a couple years. Then I accepted that I didn't believe and started exploring what that meant. At the beginning I thought that even the tone of NOM 1.0 was too angry. I thought people were too hard on the church and the people, and that thei...
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:47 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Direct tithing payment question
- Replies: 19
- Views: 10878
Re: Direct tithing payment question
My understanding is that the stake level can see it if they get wanting to. I asked if the bishop or stake Pres could request information/receive info on our donations and they said no. But....who knows what is true? We’ll be paying our “increase” tithing this way and see what happens. My understan...
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:46 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: More Baptism Stuff
- Replies: 18
- Views: 11399
Re: More Baptism Stuff
Thanks for all your experiences, it really shows how not alone we are, and how many different ways there are to approach all this. And if I perform the baptism I will be sure to leave my heathen underwear at home. (The stuff below is more journal entry than anything. Feel free to read and respond if...
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:21 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Off-day thoughts on forgiveness
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7775
Re: Off-day thoughts on forgiveness
Thanks Alas, that was a fantastic write up.
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:36 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What is your freedom worth?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 16725
Re: What is your freedom worth?
I think considering this in terms of economic value makes sense. You can assign just about anything an economic value in good old USD. So what is the cost (value) of doing whatever it takes to get the inheritance? What is the value of the inheritance? If the inheritance is significantly larger than ...
- Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:59 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New Ministering Program
- Replies: 55
- Views: 29058
Re: New Ministering Program
So it's been a few months now, what is everyone's feeling on this? is it working? I personally have not gone, nor have I been visited, nor have I been roped into an interview. Seems to be working pretty well. ;) Me too. No ministering visits, and I haven't been asked about my families or visited th...
- Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:49 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Off-day thoughts on forgiveness
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7775
Re: Off-day thoughts on forgiveness
On the other hand, most secular articles I've read, and some religious ones, place forgiving near the end of healing. Here's one that I really liked: Four Elements of Forgiveness Here are the forgiveness steps from the article: A. Express the emotion B. Understand why C. Rebuild safety 4. Let go Th...
- Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:35 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Reason For the Book of Mormon
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10998
Re: Reason For the Book of Mormon
I think religions with their own book of scripture have a much better chance of surviving. It is something to rally around and point to as the miracle that is central to their purpose, or in our case, the keystone of their religion. Would Islam exist today without The Koran? Think about what Dianet...