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by græy
Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:18 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag
Replies: 89
Views: 8216

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag

Good morning my friends. I avoided GC as long as I could. But sadly, it found me all the same.
by græy
Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is Bishop really a 40 hour a week calling?
Replies: 11
Views: 1960

Re: Is Bishop really a 40 hour a week calling?

I think this was about right for me too. When I first read the post I thought around 20 hours was about right. I was the transient bishop too, and that didn't add too much time to the regular schedule. But it was 20 hours I didn't have for my family, trying to make money, or further my career. Stil...
by græy
Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The watering down of what is revelation
Replies: 17
Views: 2196

Re: The watering down of what is revelation

Strictly speaking, a revelation could be described as anything that reveals a previously unconsidered, unobserved, or unrecognized thought or idea. Which is certainly not something that could be said of anything that goes on in LDS meetings. ... A leadership meeting about doing better at ministerin...
by græy
Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The watering down of what is revelation
Replies: 17
Views: 2196

Re: The watering down of what is revelation

I get what you're saying, and I 100% agree that the church enacts concerted efforts to water down the miraculous to make our everyday lives seem "blessed" by our church activity. That said, I'm going to play the Devil's (church's :lol: ) advocate for a sec. Strictly speaking, a revelation could be d...
by græy
Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation Poll
Replies: 29
Views: 3666

Re: Resignation Poll

In a dream-world I would resign along with my wife and family. But that is so far removed from reality that I just put resignation on my anti-church shelf and tell myself its so I don't make my mom cry. ... and that makes me cry. :cry:
by græy
Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15675

Re: Supporting our own

Red Ryder wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:57 pm
OK, I spent a day researching and put the list together.

Loose Translation:
✅ When convenient to apologetics

Tight Translation:
✅ When convenient to apologetics
All in a hard day's work! :lol:
by græy
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The most well read Mormons are….
Replies: 7
Views: 1388

Re: The most well read Mormons are….

The most well-read Mormons have at least read Rough Stone Rolling. I don't recall any TBM's who seem to have read it. :shock: Missionaries surprised me at my house the other day when I was the only one home. They saw RSR on my bookshelf and asked about it. One said he wanted to read it when he got ...
by græy
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15675

Re: Supporting our own

A lot of the BoM apologetics try to deal with the given topic by citing either loose or tight translation methods. Has anyone created a list of the various BoM problems and compared how often they cite tight vs loose translation? I was thinking the same thing. It would be interesting to see a compi...
by græy
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is Bishop really a 40 hour a week calling?
Replies: 11
Views: 1960

Re: Is Bishop really a 40 hour a week calling?

I wanted to add that my friend who is currently the transient Bishop for our stake is significantly busier on random nights. I could see him hitting close to 40 hours on a bad week.
by græy
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is Bishop really a 40 hour a week calling?
Replies: 11
Views: 1960

Re: Is Bishop really a 40 hour a week calling?

Is the Bishop really spending 40 hours a week doing church work? I may not be a typical bishop, but here's my schedule for the past year.... Sundays: 6 ~ 10 hours depending meetings, phone calls, interviews, and visits Mondays: off Tuesdays: 2-4 hours (including prep, giving rides, and cleanup) YM/...
by græy
Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Holy Fetch! (Update…)
Replies: 40
Views: 7240

Re: Holy Fetch! (Update…)

I'm so excited for you guys! Its got to feel so great to be building a common ground in this space again. You and Sister R are now my official and yet unannounced heroes, and I hope to one day follow in your footsteps.
by græy
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Losing our Eternal Families
Replies: 10
Views: 1828

Re: Losing our Eternal Families

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:30 am
Let's put our heads together and start The Church of Nothing (the only true church)
I'm in!
by græy
Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Losing our Eternal Families
Replies: 10
Views: 1828

Re: Losing our Eternal Families

Link to the podcast? I’m about to go into a meeting but want to come back to this post later. Its Mormon Expression episode 158 Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy82OGE3MjU5OC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw/episode/ZTQzODAzYWItOTc1My00ZmExLThhODMtZWQxNjVlMzMyNDgy?sa=X&ved=0CAUQkfYC...
by græy
Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Losing our Eternal Families
Replies: 10
Views: 1828

Losing our Eternal Families

I was recently listening to an old Mormon Expression podcast where the group discusses D&C 19. Specifically versus 6-12... 6 Nevertheless, it is not written that there shall be no end to this torment, but it is written endless torment. 7 Again, it is written eternal damnation; wherefore it is more e...
by græy
Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:05 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15675

Re: Supporting our own

Cnsl1 wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:01 am
Jfro18 you've done an amazing job with this and it's enjoyable to watch/ listen. I've learned a thing or two, and I thought I knew just about everything about this stuff. Thank you.
Ditto. Thank you for all of this, Jfro18!
by græy
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 4 % tithing sounds like a good idea !!
Replies: 24
Views: 3291

Re: 4 % tithing sounds like a good idea !!

I'm on the 0% tithing plan. Great plan. Highly recommend. I'm also on the 0% plan. Still waiting for the SP to notice and kick me out err... release me from my calling. That said, we have committed substantial $ to helping certain individuals and families in our ward/area directly. So I feel okay w...
by græy
Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15
Replies: 29
Views: 4174

Re: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15

This is anecdotal, but tithing has not significantly changed in our non-Utah ward. Removing actual numbers here is a chart of the last 4 years... The 2022 number is a projection based on the past 6 months. https://i.imgur.com/yX4NWx3.png edit: Interesting to note that probably 85-90% of the total ti...
by græy
Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 88
Views: 15675

Re: Supporting our own

Cnsl1 wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:01 am
Jfro18 you've done an amazing job with this and it's enjoyable to watch/ listen. I've learned a thing or two, and I thought I knew just about everything about this stuff. Thank you.
Ditto. Great job! Looking forward to the rest of the series.
by græy
Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Major Depression Diagnosis by State
Replies: 11
Views: 2150

Major Depression Diagnosis by State

Saw this floating around r/mapporn. https://i.imgur.com/iszQY1F.png I have been a bishop for slightly over a year now. In all that time I have had 1, one, single, solitary man ask to meet with me because he needed someone to talk to. It actually turned out to be a very brief, but good, conversation ...
by græy
Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Holy Fetch! (Update…)
Replies: 40
Views: 7240

Re: Holy Fetch!

Man, I've been out of the loop for a while here. This is great, Red! Congratulations to Sister Ryder for gaining a new understanding! Congratulations to you for gaining some more common ground with her! I hope things continue to progress and work out the best for both of you! edit: That was a lot of...