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- Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:41 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Yet another LDS fireside on doubts and faith crisis on 2/17 - This is really incredible to watch in real time
- Replies: 40
- Views: 15841
Re: Yet another LDS fireside on doubts and faith crisis on 2/17 - This is really incredible to watch in real time
I have heard rumors of a few stakes that have had special Sunday School classes on the essays. But it usually seems to be kept small because I think they end up with new faith crises and transitions. Our stake did this but they were taught in Priesthood/RS. I made sure I went to RS so I could sit i...
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:45 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Book of Mormon DNA help
- Replies: 19
- Views: 8259
Re: Book of Mormon DNA help
I for one would really like to apologise to you and some other women I have associated with in the church for being a part of this debacle. Thanks. I did experience some of what you wrote about. Priesthood leadership always knew best. I thought I wasn't well-read or couldn't understand the gospel b...
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:34 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Book of Mormon DNA help
- Replies: 19
- Views: 8259
Re: Book of Mormon DNA help
"...as well as "we don't know what Lehi's DNA looked like". That's the part of the essay where they pretend this is some sort of CSI investigation and you can't connect two people if you don't have a sample of both sets of DNA. Red Herring. Another red herring is pretending this is all about mitoch...
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:59 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Mission Recordings
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3852
Re: Mission Recordings
Can I just say how proud (not sure that's the right word but whatever) I am of you for doing this and listening to your former self? It's just my opinion, and people can and should do whatever helps them move forward, that too many people when they discover the truth about the church throw out old j...
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:50 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Book of Mormon DNA help
- Replies: 19
- Views: 8259
Re: Book of Mormon DNA help
Thanks for all the responses. Hopefully I will have time this weekend to look through them. I tried reading the essay years ago, and none of it made any sense to me. So it worked. I think one of the main purposes of that essay is to make you feel like it's too confusing for ordinary people and that ...
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:51 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Book of Mormon DNA help
- Replies: 19
- Views: 8259
Book of Mormon DNA help
I should have asked a long time ago, but does anyone have any resources to help me understand the BoM essay? I tried reading the essay years ago, and none of it made any sense to me. It was never one of my big issues, so I didn't pursue it. I simply don't understand the apologist argument. What can ...
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:43 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: I told my husband
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10355
Re: I told my husband
All things considered, things are going better than I would have expected. He was very upset the first night and I was watching the clock wondering how long this pain would last. He initially said I was offended and listed things that people have done over the years that I haven't liked, so we had t...
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:33 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: I told my husband
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10355
Re: I told my husband
I'm sorry for how hard this is. Its a cruel irony that confessing something like this relieves such weight from our shoulders while simultaneously throwing so much of it on our spouse's head. It sounds like you're reassuring him while giving him time to mourn the lost ideal he held on to. I hope he...
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:07 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Meeting with Bishop Tonight
- Replies: 26
- Views: 9734
Re: Meeting with Bishop Tonight
I'm glad to hear this went so well. Get some rest and enjoy whatever comes next!
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:06 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: To clean or not to clean?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 10274
Re: To clean or not to clean?
When I was TBM I preferred cleaning the church to going to church, going to potlucks, RS activities, etc. I'm just not into being sociable in a chit-chat kind of way - I need a purpose and a task. I also preferred cleaning the church alone, so we often did it Friday nights and just messaged whoever ...
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:34 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: To clean or not to clean?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 10274
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:37 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: LDS fireside this Sunday on "Navigating Doubts"
- Replies: 57
- Views: 24858
Re: LDS fireside this Sunday on "Navigating Doubts"
Ridiculous. It's the church that's playing whack-a-mole trying to cover up and explain away things they simply don't have good answers for. This devotional could count as one attempted whack. The essays, excommunications, mormonsandgays, two-hour church, lowering mission age, etc, all whacks trying ...
- Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:02 am
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: I told my husband
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10355
I told my husband
My husband knows I don't believe the church is true. He's taking it pretty hard, although he said he's suspected as much for a long time and he didn't ask because he didn't really want to know. I think he's grieving for the life he thought he was going to have and realizes it will now be different t...
- Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:38 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Infantilization of the mind
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10335
Re: Infantilization of the mind
Is this what God wants for his children? We are Gods in embryo right? We're meant to become universal architects ourselves right? How do we do that if we're not allowed to use our own brains? Or are our future God-selves expected to continue to follow the program and pattern that has been laid out ...
- Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:39 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: Dr. Laura gives advice to mormon couple
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7487
Re: Dr. Laura gives advice to mormon couple
I think it is generally good advice. It's easier to tell a believer that you now believe in something else than nothing at all. It is also less damaging to their sense of identity and they are less likely to take it personally if no details are given. In time, if the parents want to know and the non...
- Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:29 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
- Replies: 97
- Views: 45846
Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
I've had this argument with my husband several times in the past: I've claimed that the temple has changed many times. I've told him to ask his parents. He won't do it. This will make for some interesting conversations moving forward. I really hate how the TBM answer they give to all this is "conti...
- Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:13 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Struggling...A Lot
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13701
Re: Struggling...A Lot
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Going through a faith transition is terrible for one's health and I struggle with a lot of the same issues you mentioned. I'll commiserate about an unempathetic spouse - mine simply can't understand why I've internalized Mormonism and just tells me I'm thinkin...
- Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:01 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Need Advice - Potential Visit from a Seventy
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18331
- Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:00 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
- Replies: 97
- Views: 45846
Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
I've had this argument with my husband several times in the past: I've claimed that the temple has changed many times. I've told him to ask his parents. He won't do it. This will make for some interesting conversations moving forward. I really hate how the TBM answer they give to all this is "contin...
- Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:50 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: I think my beliefs are shifting again
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6115
Re: I think my beliefs are shifting again
Perhaps I've matured or the universe has exposed the patterns of human nature. I don't know. Now I just see humans all trying to survive. Some on the backs of themselves. Others on the backs of defrauding everyone. My new reality is that the world is just an overall shitty place if you focus on it ...