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by Thoughtful
Sun May 21, 2017 5:05 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Recommended order of study?
Replies: 7
Views: 5976

Recommended order of study?

Spouseman has agreed to study the essays, and anything on LDS.org OR cited by LDS.org to try to get a shared perspective.

Where do I start? I'd like his eyes to be opened, but gently.
by Thoughtful
Sun May 21, 2017 5:02 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Temple marriages are stronger?
Replies: 30
Views: 25414

Re: Temple marriages are stronger?

Temple marriages have lower divorce rates, but there's also a great deal of stigma in regard to divorce within the church. Also the church marries us to roles, in which learning to navigate conflicts is beside the point. He presides, she hearkens, he works obsessively at work and at church while she...
by Thoughtful
Sun May 21, 2017 4:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can Darwinian Natural Selection Theory be Squared With Church Origin Doctrine?
Replies: 19
Views: 10586

Re: Can Darwinian Natural Selection Theory be Squared With Church Origin Doctrine?

It has taken me a long time to reconcile myself to evolution and I'm still not entirely comfortable with it. Having said that, I think the Adam and Eve myth is one of the most dangerous and damaging myths out there and truly, truly needs to go down the memory hole. Curious to hear both reasons; why...
by Thoughtful
Sat May 20, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: No One Ever Asks
Replies: 15
Views: 7225

Re: No One Ever Asks

I've been very busy this week, and it's been a rather lousy week for a myriad of reasons, only one of which is church. I appreciate the comments and the empathy. I almost told my husband once a couple years ago. I don't remember what we were talking about but I said something like, "But I just don'...
by Thoughtful
Sat May 20, 2017 2:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I hope RS teachers keep these lessons coming
Replies: 17
Views: 9858

Re: I hope RS teachers keep these lessons coming

I haven't been to church in almost two years, but if my RS class was like that, I would consider returning, just for the entertainment value. My RS is super depressing. Probably because nearly everyone in there is depressed. Lots of doom, gloom, and "I hope I can be good enough to have happiness in...
by Thoughtful
Sat May 20, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Talk about reading between the lines!
Replies: 30
Views: 25607

Re: Talk about reading between the lines!

The interesting thing about Anthon is that even the church is beginning to doubt his abilities to interpret Egyptian. See: www.lds.org/church/news/speaker-gives-new-insights-on-martin-harris-1828-visit-to-charles-anthon?lang=eng My problem with the account is that there isn't one (so far as I can t...
by Thoughtful
Fri May 19, 2017 9:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Halfway Mormon
Replies: 6
Views: 3035

Re: Halfway Mormon

Order on Amazon?
by Thoughtful
Thu May 18, 2017 4:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does Satan tempt the General Authorities?
Replies: 23
Views: 20747

Re: Does Satan tempt the General Authorities?

If you've had your second anointing, what purpose could Satan have for tempting you?
by Thoughtful
Tue May 16, 2017 4:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Paid temple jobs
Replies: 8
Views: 5825

Re: Paid temple jobs

In response to the new mormonleaks files today, was anyone else surprised that certain temple gigs are paid? Such as temple recorder, President, etc? I figured the maintenance/grounds crews, maybe the cafeteria staff, etc. were compensated, but I was rather surprised that several positions "on the ...
by Thoughtful
Mon May 15, 2017 9:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Plans, and plans, and then....
Replies: 15
Views: 12004

Re: Plans, and plans, and then....

Research has shown the optimum size of units is 150-200 active members. It reduces burn-out of active members it seems. So this is not revelation, it's research. Even though the Leadership presents it as the revealed Will of the Lord. Off the record they quote the research. That the Church can dive...
by Thoughtful
Sun May 14, 2017 2:03 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: #I7 The Law of Tithing
Replies: 10
Views: 8965

Re: #I7 The Law of Tithing

We had a nuanced lesson on the history of tithing and implementation policies in church history. It was silent in there, it i think was news to everyone but me and the teacher. Then a former bishop jumped in and started arguing, and the teacher said, "hold up, you're jumping ahead to 1970." And then...
by Thoughtful
Sat May 13, 2017 9:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Revelation of convenience
Replies: 29
Views: 20643

Re: Revelation of convenience

Sure, it's a revelation of convenience but I'm wondering if almost all revelations fall into that category? Great question. I think you're right here. Two of my favorite revelations of convenience (there are many :)) are: - Joseph miraculously receiving a revelation that the saints needed to start ...
by Thoughtful
Fri May 12, 2017 10:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Was Joseph Smith martyred, murdered, or removed from his place?
Replies: 26
Views: 29987

Re: Re:o Was Joseph Smith martyred, murdered, or removed from his place?

Joseph didn't seem to have that mindset. He wanted out. If he could have escaped, he would have . He did have a chance to skip town and he went back, for whatever that's worth. I know. Anyone remember what he said? Something like lamb to the slaughter, but was religion mentioned? If you were to ask...
by Thoughtful
Fri May 12, 2017 11:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: LDS Church and BSA part ways
Replies: 46
Views: 29320

Re: LDS Church and BSA part ways

Friends of scouting is the deal made by the church with BSA. They will pressure members to donate to BSA in exchange for a lower price/ lump sum for charters.
by Thoughtful
Thu May 11, 2017 9:44 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Favorite lds songs?
Replies: 42
Views: 30573

Re: Favorite lds songs?

Impeccably dressed young Elders stand together and deliver a song of peace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDXNHPeRB0k Wow - beautiful. Is that the original lyrics to the tune of "Be still my soul"? I love both songs really - in fact, I included it in a group of lds songs I like and regularly play...
by Thoughtful
Thu May 11, 2017 9:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Here
Replies: 26
Views: 11566

Re: New Here

My heart breaks for you. Grief is just the worst feeling I know of. I'm sorry that people have exploited your grief, and I'm sorry for all your hard losses. The love story of you and your husband came across very sweet. God bless.
by Thoughtful
Thu May 11, 2017 9:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Many Book of Mormon Geographies
Replies: 25
Views: 15675

Re: Many Book of Mormon Geographies

Another one I could never wrap my brain around was the day the sun went down but it was still bright all night, then the three days of darkness. From my youth it never made sense those events happened for the Nephites on one side of the globe but not for the Israelis and Romans on the other side. I...
by Thoughtful
Thu May 11, 2017 8:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Earliest Book of Mormon People
Replies: 15
Views: 11979

Re: Earliest Book of Mormon People

Well now, that's a pretty awesome discovery! Makes me wish I'd gone into paleontology or one of those fields instead of hammering on a keyboard all day long. Did anyone here every hear a story or theory that the neanderthals or other non-homo bones were some decedents of Cain? Obviously a crazy mad...
by Thoughtful
Thu May 04, 2017 7:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lightning Survey: Before the 2014 Plural Marriage Essay, did you know that Joseph Smith practiced it HIMSELF?
Replies: 48
Views: 20492

Re: Lightning Survey: Before the 2014 Plural Marriage Essay, did you know that Joseph Smith practiced it HIMSELF?

[quote=Anon70 post_id=14585 time=1493887100 where he supported them

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He didn't even support himself, Emma, or their children. Ever really.
by Thoughtful
Wed May 03, 2017 11:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Every knee shall bow.
Replies: 6
Views: 4040

Re: Every knee shall bow.

Regardless, I see it as a gesture motivated from within the individual rather than demanded by the Sovereign. This. At one time, I was extremely angry with God and told him so. Somewhat aggressively. God responded back with an indescribable intensity of love, and of acceptance, even of my anger. I ...