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by Rob4Hope
Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?
Replies: 11
Views: 1197

Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?

I read a paper about this topic. The feet washing was used as a way to further enforce BY being the rightful next leader because he had his feeties washed and guys like Rigdon didn’t. This is what is called the “Second Anointing”, “The More Sure Word of Prophecy”, “Having your Calling and Election M...
by Rob4Hope
Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does belief equal stupidity?
Replies: 31
Views: 2873

Does belief equal stupidity?

I detect a wave of stupidity sweeping across this nation. It's not that people are getting dumber... As someone in education, actually, there is a wave. Online education through covid hit hard. Our school is adding unprecedented sections of lower level math. 3,500 incoming college students tested i...
by Rob4Hope
Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Photo of Joseph Smith
Replies: 7
Views: 1520

Re: Photo of Joseph Smith

When I saw that photo, I had to look up David Miscaviage.

Something about the JS look reminded me of Scientology


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by Rob4Hope
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Robert Kirby retire?
Replies: 8
Views: 1814

Re: Did Robert Kirby retire?

I saw the original article. The LDS leadership doesn’t and probably can’t accept that gay is not a choice. So they have to force the issue lest god be a creep by predestining a significant number of his children to damnation. I’ve also found it interesting why celestial sex seems to be akin to exalt...
by Rob4Hope
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What was the actual reason for the Mountain Meadows Massacre?
Replies: 34
Views: 6132

Re: What was the actual reason for the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

These men, like BY and George A, supposedly had their calling and election made sure. Oh yes, of course they'd received their 2nd anointing. It all plays into their warped mindset....what a cluster that ended in such a tragedy. My ancestor (Jesse N. Smith) writes about the 2nd anointing like it's j...
by Rob4Hope
Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What was the actual reason for the Mountain Meadows Massacre?
Replies: 34
Views: 6132

Re: What was the actual reason for the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

These men, like BY and George A, supposedly had their calling and election made sure. And this is what they could justify doing? They were culpable if not direct instigators! You know, Adolf Hitler probably never pulled a trigger himself, but do we justify him because of that?…and exonerate him from...
by Rob4Hope
Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What was the actual reason for the Mountain Meadows Massacre?
Replies: 34
Views: 6132

Re: What was the actual reason for the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

So, did this same George A get his second anointing?


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by Rob4Hope
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Church and the Rule of Law
Replies: 14
Views: 3257

Re: The Church and the Rule of Law

Hagoth wrote:
blazerb wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:56 pm
...and I mentioned the rumors that RMN is sealed to someone who is not his legal wife.
Slow down, you're going too fast for me. who are we talking about here? Sherry Dew?
Ditto for me. Who are we talking about?


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by Rob4Hope
Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Brad Wilcox
Replies: 6
Views: 1998

Re: Brad Wilcox

wtfluff wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:50 pm
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6088&start=20
Oh...thanks man. I did a small look and didn't see that this thread was already here.
by Rob4Hope
Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Brad Wilcox
Replies: 6
Views: 1998

Brad Wilcox

Anyone following the news on Brad? He is getting his a$$ handed to him. I looked closely at what he said the first time around, and it has a "us and them" implication that is pretty clear to me. I think he is trying to pay homage to the FACT that early leaders in the church said it was GOD who put t...
by Rob4Hope
Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Blistering article in SL Tribune about BYU honor code (and USU)
Replies: 4
Views: 1605

Blistering article in SL Tribune about BYU honor code (and USU)

A blistering pair of articles appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune yesterday and today that highlighted what I believe is a bigger problem of white privileged misogynistic men, heavily influenced by LDS culture, creating and perpetuating a rape culture in higher education. Both articles were blistering...
by Rob4Hope
Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What neuroscience tells us about Mormonism
Replies: 13
Views: 4968

Re: What neuroscience tells us about Mormonism

Hello NOM. I'm still alive out here......occasionally checking in and seeing what the latest is. The "feeling the spirit" events in my life are very interesting. VERY interesting. What blew the lid on it being subjective for me was when watching Star Wars. When Luke has his force moments, and the Jo...
by Rob4Hope
Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes
Replies: 11
Views: 4601

Re: Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes

I remember in those tables that Truman claimed Brigham Young wanted to know WHO Joseph really was. Joseph's response was: "If I told you who I am Brigham, you would leave the church!" And Truman said Brigham's responsed: "Then Don't Tell me!.....for what I know I know." What a load of rot. I've read...
by Rob4Hope
Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Examples that every prophet since JS have been wrong
Replies: 11
Views: 3915

Re: Examples that every prophet since JS have been wrong

Joseph Fielding Smith:

TK Smoothie

But, along more serious lines, he was rigid that life on this planet has only existed for 7,000 years. BRM got a lot of that from him.

And then you have to start inventing things for the dinosaurs to make it all fit.
by Rob4Hope
Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes
Replies: 11
Views: 4601

Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes

A few days ago my partner and I drove south and ended up on the BYU campus. She told me about the places she worked, where she took classes, etc. It got me thinking about my TBM days, and specifically the Truman Madsen cassette tapes you could purchase on Joseph Smith. Truman lectured for about 6 ho...
by Rob4Hope
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:02 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Your brain on Mormonism
Replies: 10
Views: 3501

Re: Your brain on Mormonism

....hunh?

This a new topic?

I dont stay up to date much anymore.

Waste of time...

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by Rob4Hope
Sun May 09, 2021 8:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What do you believe about it now?
Replies: 26
Views: 9125

Re: What do you believe about it now?

The Church has developed a well-staffed bureaucracy and dedicated volunteer corp that could put its collective shoulder to the wheel and help a lot of needy people. I actually agree with this Moksha. But the church would have to make some pretty big changes. I am concerned about the total illusiona...
by Rob4Hope
Mon May 03, 2021 12:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What do you believe about it now?
Replies: 26
Views: 9125

Re: What do you believe about it now?

2bizE wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 7:05 pm
Religion is the greatest fraud in humankind. Mormonism is the largest financial fraud in the past 200 years.
here here
by Rob4Hope
Sun May 02, 2021 8:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What do you believe about it now?
Replies: 26
Views: 9125

What do you believe about it now?

With regards to the LDS church, I believe its a load of crock. I came to that conclusion about 10 years ago. The tipping point was when I could no longer justify the lack of accountability the leadership took in their words and actions. Since that time, my eyes were opened enough to look harder -- a...
by Rob4Hope
Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Thread -- Natasha got exed
Replies: 15
Views: 4856

Re: New Thread -- Netasha got exed

Thoughts? 1st thought: Can we please spell N a tasha correctly? My eyes keep telling my brain something is wrong, and let's face it, there is LOTS wrong with my fluffy brain and that e is adding even more fluff. (Rob, feel free to kick me wherever you'd like, and pummel me verbally at will for bein...