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by Newme
Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Taking the good, leaving the bad.
Replies: 33
Views: 11036

Re: Taking the good, leaving the bad.

And, once again, you've turned the entire thread around to your agenda against homosexuals. I typed up a long response, but honestly, it's not worth it. I'll just agree with Fifi. You've obviously never been close to anyone who is homosexual, or dealt with the suicide of someone important to you. W...
by Newme
Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why don't most LDS like Grace?
Replies: 29
Views: 16941

Re: Why don't most LDS like Grace?

Because most members serve in the Church not because they want to, and not because they care all at much about the other members they serve - most serve because they think they have to, due to the emphasis on "Works". I think you are spot on. The implied retirement plan for a faithful LDS couple is...
by Newme
Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:34 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Taking the good, leaving the bad.
Replies: 33
Views: 11036

Re: Taking the good, leaving the bad.

I'd agree with your wager and that's my point. Who is actually THINKING? Who is actually looking into facts themselves rather than following the herd? Who has researched the effects of children being raised by homosexual parents before jumping to cognitively distorted conclusions?? Who doesn't STIL...
by Newme
Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Taking the good, leaving the bad.
Replies: 33
Views: 11036

Re: Taking the good, leaving the bad.

It's not about the kids being denied baptism because if it were, they would've left long before when they discovered children of polygamist families could not be baptized - which policy is old news and nobody showed a problem with that. And essentially it's the same thing. What percentage of member...
by Newme
Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Taking the good, leaving the bad.
Replies: 33
Views: 11036

Re: Taking the good, leaving the bad.

If I support an organization that does a whole lot of bad, and a tiny bit of good, is it OK ignore the "bad" that the organization does, and support the "good"? It's more complicated then that for me. Some may view the church as evil, quite simply, I don't. I don't want to put words in wtfluff's mo...
by Newme
Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:04 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Some Pain I've Experienced, But, Things are Better Now
Replies: 6
Views: 6093

Re: Some Pain I've Experienced, But, Things are Better Now

AZFlyer wrote about how there seems to be a lot of pain here at NOM lately. There is definitely a lot of pain that has to be dealt with when going through the whole faith-crisis thing. I remember going to church and all I could think about was suicide. I would plan the whole thing out in sacrament ...
by Newme
Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:51 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: General problems of relationships
Replies: 2
Views: 2573

Re: General problems of relationships

I guess we've all had the experience of trying to guess the right thing to say to placate your significant other and having the placating response change depending on their mood, full moon, low tide, Game of Thrones episode, season of the year, etc.... Even the most well-organized NOMs must face th...
by Newme
Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM touchstone - thanks!
Replies: 27
Views: 14902

Re: NOM touchstone - thanks!

I am currently in Peru flying drones for an archaeological survey of a pre-Inca site. To my surprise and delight, for the first time since I arrived in Peru, I have enough bandwidth to access NOM (albeit at an excruciatingly slow up/download rate). I can't tell you how nice it is to have a little i...
by Newme
Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Taking the good, leaving the bad.
Replies: 33
Views: 11036

Re: Taking the good, leaving the bad.

What about comparing the good vs. the bad that an organization does? If I support an organization that does a whole lot of bad, and a tiny bit of good, is it OK ignore the "bad" that the organization does, and support the "good"? If you ignore either the good or bad, it leans toward bi-polar (polar...
by Newme
Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: It's so true...
Replies: 12
Views: 5731

Re: It's so true...

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens... I have a testimony about. I know that truth is true. It's the truest thing on earth. :ugeek: Really, this is a light hearted thread which I love not only for its humor but also for its profound truth. I didn't mean that sarcastically but it came out that...
by Newme
Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Taking the good, leaving the bad.
Replies: 33
Views: 11036

Re: Taking the good, leaving the bad.

I love it "Take the best, leave the rest." In fact, it's kind of a motto I repeat to my kids (usually in a whisper), and to remind myself. There's a tendency to think in bi-polarized all-or-nothing thinking - from "the church is perfect"... to "the church completely sucks." In reality, most of my ex...
by Newme
Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My impressions of Islam
Replies: 28
Views: 12529

Re: My impressions of Islam

Personally, I dress modestly usually because I don't feel comfortable having my boobs or but hang out for all to see. When I used to dress immodestly, I tended to attract guys who wanted a quick lay and were not interested in respecting me as a person. They objectified me - looking at my body more t...
by Newme
Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My impressions of Islam
Replies: 28
Views: 12529

Re: My impressions of Islam

I think any religion that tries to compel women to hide their beauty to the public is not good. Both Mormons and muslims do that constantly. I think it is oppressive to women and controlling. One night around a bonfire, I asked this Jewish guy (from Israel) thinking similar to what you mentioned. H...
by Newme
Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Being NOM is the worst
Replies: 9
Views: 3953

Re: Being NOM is the worst

Yeah, I can also relate. It's not easy especially when you and your spouse are not on the same page. Maybe what can make it tough is when people take it to extremes - from fanatic TBM... to rebelious "anti-mormon." It sounds like you & your wife are a bit more moderate and that's good. At some point...
by Newme
Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Any ex-Mormons who don't drink?
Replies: 16
Views: 7748

Re: Any ex-Mormons who don't drink?

I personally hate the term "ex-Mormon"... it sounds so negative to me... Is there anyone here who has left the church but still doesn't drink? I'm openly atheist now, but everyone at work knows I'm the atheist who doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't drink coffee, and gets on employees when they use the ...
by Newme
Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:02 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My impressions of Islam
Replies: 28
Views: 12529

Re: My impressions of Islam

moksha wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:12 pm
My Impression of Islam

Achmed - "What say you Moksha, shall we pray or shall we jihad?"
Moksha - "Aiieeyeeee!"

Hey, didn't say it would be a good impression. I do a much better Richard Nixon.
:D
I like your humor, Moksha!
No doubt there's humor in every religion and its traditions.
by Newme
Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: The Easy Way
Replies: 12
Views: 10818

Re: The Easy Way

I like your thoughts and your avatar. It's been a long time since I've lived outside the MorCor, but I have a feeling that, one I'm outside, the NOM path will be the wide one. Right now, I'm thinking of one of my favorite poems, "The Road Less Traveled". I'll have to see how I feel about it's, now....
by Newme
Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My impressions of Islam
Replies: 28
Views: 12529

Re: My impressions of Islam

Fair point. For anyone to assert a religion like that may involve some self-righteousness. Still, I think that there are some who may embrace a particular religion while deeply understanding it is one valid way of spiritually connecting, out of many, and that just works for them. One thing I like t...
by Newme
Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:41 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: The Easy Way
Replies: 12
Views: 10818

Re: The Easy Way

I hadn't thought of it like that before, but I can see some truth - like when you are in a flow - artistically or whatever passion you have - and it's as if everything's working with you. I've interpreted the narrow way kind of the NOM of the NOMs way... the less popular way. The way that involves b...
by Newme
Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:24 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Being a jerk
Replies: 10
Views: 10046

Re: Being a jerk

If she wants to move toward Christ then help her. Often "working on being more Christlike" is actually "I want to burrow deeper into my ignorance of church history". Fine. Study the New Testament with her. Read "Grace is not God's Backup Plan". I believe that a solid dose of "What would Jesus do" e...