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by Reuben
Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do
Replies: 11
Views: 3347

Re: Church Attacks Diversity - But That's What Racist White Organizations Do

And in a win for white supremacists all throughout the Church, President Oaks attacks diversity, and the Church News amplifies his clueless white guy rhetoric: https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2021-08-08/during-his-first-trpresident-oaks-single-adult-conference-absolute-truth-2217...
by Reuben
Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Jfro, I have another project idea for you.
Replies: 18
Views: 5332

Re: Jfro, I have another project idea for you.

These are the books I wish every member today would see because they were off the reservation at the time but are just completely insane today. Being off the reservation at the time would make any comparison to current doctrine easy to dismiss as a strawman. You would have to be careful with framin...
by Reuben
Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: More Conference Sessions added
Replies: 28
Views: 8522

Re: More Conference Sessions added

Those in charge have been monitoring your wishes and are pleased to announce the following: PROVO - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is pleased to announce to the NOM board the following speakers for the Saturday Conference. Following a prayer and a selection by the BYU Glee Club, Si...
by Reuben
Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: “We really want buttery soft fabric”
Replies: 33
Views: 9904

Re: “We really want buttery soft fabric”

Yeah, when they "legally" can be put on just about any garment, that really undermines their position about the approval process. Just about any garment, you say? I know of a lady named Victoria who has some interesting secrets. I'm sure those secrets would function just fine in military use. We've...
by Reuben
Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Nelson's Spiral of Death
Replies: 14
Views: 3885

Re: Nelson's Spiral of Death

There are really only two options when you take into account all of the Nelson stories that have turned out to be demonstrably untrue: 1) Russell M. Nelson is a bald-faced liar 2) Russell M. Nelson is delusional Either option disqualifies him from being a trustworthy and competent leader. I have a ...
by Reuben
Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: faith transition dilemmas
Replies: 19
Views: 5114

Re: faith transition dilemmas

You won't know whether you have to choose between self-respect and others' respect until you come out to the child who is getting married. It sounds like if you put off that conversation, you will be forced to choose. FWIW, the possibility of being excluded from my children's weddings because I can'...
by Reuben
Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can a woman actually make it to the CK?'
Replies: 16
Views: 5222

Re: Can a woman actually make it to the CK?'

So now that the church tries to back away from the reason the whole temple endowment and marriage thing was created, they're still stuck with a pile of uncomfortable baggage that members have to wade through. Such as the word "hearken" I guess. My wife and I have talked about this. She thinks of "h...
by Reuben
Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Jesus and Satan Brothers Doctrine
Replies: 18
Views: 5371

Re: Jesus and Satan Brothers Doctrine

As long as we're talking about where Mormons and Christians get it wrong, Old Testament angels would have looked more like this: https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/assyrian-winged-genie-2-weston-westmoreland.jpg So... a six-winged British barrister robot bird. Very...
by Reuben
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled
Replies: 26
Views: 7854

Re: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled

I knew a person once who believed that Jebus would return during a Saturday evening stake meeting because that’s where the true believers will be. When, in reality, it's the last place he'd be likely to show up. Look for him at the homeless camp on Rio Grande. I wrote the following a few years ago ...
by Reuben
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes
Replies: 11
Views: 4540

Re: Truman Madsen and the JS Tapes

I can't help but wonder about Truman. I am also looking back at myself. In my own mind, when I was a TBM, I couldn't understand how others could disbelieve. Now that I'm on the outside, I can't understand how people like Truman can believe. I've given myself whiplash as I've been swung to a new ext...
by Reuben
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled
Replies: 26
Views: 7854

Re: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled

Each of the Q15 must speak at least once. Each of the First Presidency must speak at least twice. (Unless completely incapacitated.) Those are the rules. I don't know whether there are rules for other GAs. If they're not intentional about how they allocate talks, there will be fewer female speakers ...
by Reuben
Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Pray for Rain in Utah
Replies: 12
Views: 4434

Re: Pray for Rain in Utah

Corsair wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:45 pm
Red Ryder wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:03 pm
Done
Hold up. Exactly whom did you pray to? Was it the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
I thought it was Red Ryder answering the prayers.
by Reuben
Thu May 27, 2021 1:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Garments and Temple recommend interview
Replies: 36
Views: 12851

Re: Garments and Temple recommend interview

Wasn't that one of the chief things over which Jesus got pissy with the Pharisees? Outward expressions of inward commitments. When you go that route it doesn't take very long for people to start judging inward commitments by someone's ability to display outward expressions. Ha! Isn’t that the whole...
by Reuben
Wed May 26, 2021 12:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Jesus and Satan Brothers Doctrine
Replies: 18
Views: 5371

Re: Jesus and Satan Brothers Doctrine

moksha wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 6:21 pm
Can they not see the direct relationship between both Thor and Loki as sons of Odin, in relation to the LDS holy family?
I'm sure the fact that Odin and Thor are different faces of the same person complicates things.
by Reuben
Sun May 16, 2021 5:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 156
Views: 44866

Re: Forced Turning Point

Maybe a counterpoint to the oh-so-serious Jesus in all the Mormon artwork: https://www.art4god.com/store/joy-to-the-world
by Reuben
Sat May 15, 2021 7:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Radio West - Doubt
Replies: 7
Views: 3132

Re: Radio West - Doubt

I started listening to this, but haven’t finished. Is doubt among other churches or other groups as pervasive and critically viewed as in Mormonism? I know it is among Jehovah's Witnesses. I suspect it is in any fundamentalist group; i.e. those in which a person's worth is tied to their belief in t...
by Reuben
Sat May 15, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I Learned How to Judge as a Mormon
Replies: 10
Views: 3394

Re: I Learned How to Judge as a Mormon

I think the church teaches members to judge themselves first and foremost, and that for most members, all other judgment flows from that. When I let go of judging myself - when I realized I was terrible at it, and the commandment to "judge not" applied just as easily to self-judgment - I largely sto...
by Reuben
Wed May 12, 2021 4:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Keys To Sexuality
Replies: 18
Views: 5804

Re: Keys To Sexuality

That meme is creepy to me. It would lead to the logical conclusion that Jesus is a voyeur... Jesus and your ancestors... Joseph Smith on the spirits of the just: Enveloped in flaming fire, they are not far from us, and know and understand our thoughts, feelings and motions, and are often pained the...
by Reuben
Fri May 07, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Keys To Sexuality
Replies: 18
Views: 5804

Re: Keys To Sexuality

Apparently this meme is 7 years old, but it's new to me and seems to apply here. Just replace Jesus' face with whoever is trying to control your sexuality. Mom, is that you? https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/852/forgot_to_ask_thumb.png I could imagine President Nelson's face on i...