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by Wonderment
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Historical details do not carry the saving power…
Replies: 16
Views: 1486

Re: Historical details do not carry the saving power…

The entire covenant is based upon the historical details. Without the historical details, there is no covenant, because there is no context for understanding what happened. The manifesting of the covenant is depending upon the historical details. What manner of deceit and gaslighting is this? :evil:...
by Wonderment
Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: So... my friend was just promoted to General Authority
Replies: 17
Views: 1408

Re: So... my friend was just promoted to General Authority

Kimo Esplin. He was called to sit up on the stand in afternoon conference. He's was the thoughtful bishop, and later stake president, who gave me temple recommends when I couldn't answer the questions correctly, and taught me how to internally nuance the questions. Great guy. I hope he makes it to ...
by Wonderment
Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sealing rules?
Replies: 26
Views: 1819

Re: Sealing rules?

Thanks Pale for the response. It answers the question but creates more. That means that polygamy is still a part of the doctrine despite the efforts to distance. Makes sense considering D&C 132 is still around. The conversation I was having came to an abrupt end when the ladies shut it down stating...
by Wonderment
Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: She seems close to the end sometimes
Replies: 10
Views: 1067

Re: She seems close to the end sometimes

Hi gang : Been sometime since I have visited and posted my own thread. I have missed you guys. Recently when all the financial dealings of ensign peak came out in the news I kept dropping hints and at one point came out and asked my TBM wife if she would want to belong to a dishonest organization??...
by Wonderment
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Analogies: Radio Vs. Shelf
Replies: 9
Views: 860

Re: Analogies: Radio Vs. Shelf

Prairie Home Companion, with its fun music and hilarious stories about Lake Wobegeon "where all the children are above average" :lol: was always one of my favorites. -- Wndr.
by Wonderment
Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Analogies: Radio Vs. Shelf
Replies: 9
Views: 860

Re: Analogies: Radio Vs. Shelf

The broken shelf is a great analogy for a faith crisis. Another great analogy, for hanging on to testimony as long as possible, is jigsaw puzzle that doesn't look like the picture on the box, so you keep hammering the pieces in the wrong spaces to make them fit. Here's one that just occurred to me,...
by Wonderment
Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What happened to the old NOM board?
Replies: 28
Views: 5547

Re: What happened to the old NOM board?

8-) 8-) 8-) Thanks so much to all the wonderful people who revived this board and who have kept it going. I think we have some of the most talented, funniest, most insightful writers in the entire Nomie-verse. Thank you, everyone. -- Wndr.
by Wonderment
Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Ward Weirdo and other stereotypes?
Replies: 30
Views: 2554

Re: The Ward Weirdo and other stereotypes?

It's weird that they're all anticommunist, because the utopian condition of the Lehites as described in 4 Nephi is almost exactly like Marx' ideal of the stateless, classless, moneyless society where property is held in common and everyone contributes according to his ability and receives according...
by Wonderment
Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What would you do?
Replies: 10
Views: 900

Re: What would you do?

I would let the oldest child and the partner be the first to tell the TBM relatives. However, as a parent, I share your concern for he well-being of the child. We are instinctively protective of our children, we miss them when they move away, and we always want the best for them. So, I can relate to...
by Wonderment
Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Ward Weirdo and other stereotypes?
Replies: 30
Views: 2554

Re: The Ward Weirdo and other stereotypes?

A few more that I'll add: The person who always has to be first for to bare their testimony. And they (as politely as possible) pout if someone beats them to the pulpit. The person who has to tell their life story each month in F&TM. The person who has the world crashing down on them harder then ev...
by Wonderment
Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Ward Weirdo and other stereotypes?
Replies: 30
Views: 2554

Re: The Ward Weirdo and other stereotypes?

A few more that I'll add: The person who always has to be first for to bare their testimony. And they (as politely as possible) pout if someone beats them to the pulpit. The person who has to tell their life story each month in F&TM. The person who has the world crashing down on them harder then ev...
by Wonderment
Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:50 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Relaxed mission attire
Replies: 21
Views: 2026

Re: Relaxed mission attire

I am not sure if this is funny or pathetic. Instead of changing the missionaries into people that someone is willing to talk to, without fear of religion being shoved down their throats, they will just make the missionaries harder to recognize. It won’t work. The JW have had missionaries with no dr...
by Wonderment
Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Thanksgiving prayer
Replies: 11
Views: 1010

Re: Thanksgiving prayer

Thank you, Angel ! Happy Thanksgiving to you. :D On this Thanksgiving Day and always, I'm very grateful for this message board, where there is so much support and fellowship ! There's always people here with a kind word, wonderful humor, and a perspective that provides support and encouragement. Tha...
by Wonderment
Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: You're only happy because Satan won
Replies: 13
Views: 1196

Re: You're only happy because Satan won

5. Then finish your day with some nice lovemaking with your spouse, if you have one, making sure you get really nasty and call out God's name once or twice and say "baby I'm gonna love you like the devil!" Satan LOVES that. If you don't have a spouse, just masturbate then pretend to look guilty aft...
by Wonderment
Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Reconsidering participation in ministering
Replies: 17
Views: 1723

Re: Help reconsidering participation in ministering

Opting out of ministering sounds like a good option. You could instead request a family and companion of your choice if you would like to continue visiting the guy you mentioned. That's what I do. I tell them I will minister the same two families that I have ministered since I was active, many year...
by Wonderment
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What to Say to Son
Replies: 26
Views: 2931

Re: What to Say to Son

HI Linked, I think this is absolutely beautiful. Kids will listen for what comes from your heart, and this is very sincere and heartfelt. I think it will work perfectly. It's clear that you put a lot of thought and care into what you're going to say. It will reasonate very well, I am sure. Thank you...
by Wonderment
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sacrifices for Zion + Zelph
Replies: 5
Views: 829

Re: Sacrifices for Zion + Zelph

Then we got a lecture about the mountain of archaeological evidence that supports the BoM in every respect. Rod Meldrum's name kept coming up. And DNA. Irrefutable evidence from DNA. There is no longer any room for debate about the Israelite origins of the Native Americans. And he was so excited to...
by Wonderment
Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Adult Saturday Night Stake Conference "date"
Replies: 11
Views: 1689

Re: Adult Saturday Night Stake Conference "date"

Excellent analogy. It's like running an MLM company where signing up a downline takes precedence over promoting the product itself. Maybe that's why MLM companies are popular in Utah. From church teachings, many people understand the need (and the sales techniques) for acquiring a network of convert...
by Wonderment
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Adult Saturday Night Stake Conference "date"
Replies: 11
Views: 1689

Re: Adult Saturday Night Stake Conference "date"

To add: I think this topic brings up an important question: In a mixed-faith relationship, where you do draw the line about attendance at church meetings or church-related social functions? - Wndr.
by Wonderment
Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:59 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Adult Saturday Night Stake Conference "date"
Replies: 11
Views: 1689

Re: Adult Saturday Night Stake Conference "date"

It's so stressful to sit through endless meetings where we have to decide how to receive the speaker's words. Do we pretend to listen, then give ourselves permission to zone out? Does our partner object if we bring a book to read or scroll through our phone? Does our partner hope that by asking us t...