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by annotatedbom
Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43
Replies: 15
Views: 6104

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43

In the 21st century DNA evidence has arguably (And I believe justifiably) replaced witness testimony as the most compelling type of evidence there is. I think the 'God of Truth' made it that way; that's what progress is. True, but if you offer this to a believer, beware that they may point out the ...
by annotatedbom
Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43
Replies: 15
Views: 6104

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43

moksha wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:28 pm
What about the apologetic that God turned the entire DNA lineage Asiatic as part of a curse?
I guess that works for some. Why not? Whenever you can resort to "It's magic," you can rationalize belief in anything you want.
by annotatedbom
Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43
Replies: 15
Views: 6104

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43

I'm confused by the " Never mind that the Book of Mormon is filled with 19th century anachronisms" portion ... Ugh! I appreciate you pointing this out. I wrote that poorly. I meant to say that I was borrowing from Elder Holland's rhetorical style, and that the quote below was from me. I edited it t...
by annotatedbom
Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43
Replies: 15
Views: 6104

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43

In the terms of this question regarding DNA evidence, I am less invested or interested in the actual data or studying up on genetics or research. Because the church leaders and the book itself state one thing, and now, the "prophets, seers, and revelators" who talk to God and talk for God, are sayi...
by annotatedbom
Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43
Replies: 15
Views: 6104

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43

Another refutation of the apologetic detour that we don't know anything about Lehi's lineage is the fact that one of the reasons Nephi had to decapitate a drunken man was to get his father's genealogy that was written on the plates. This is such a great point I felt compelled to edit the post on my...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43
Replies: 15
Views: 6104

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 43

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 43 , Nov 2-8, 2020, Mormon 7-9 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Is lack of DNA evidence a major challenge to Book of Mormon truth claims? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some ...
by annotatedbom
Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 42
Replies: 3
Views: 1540

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 42

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 42 , Oct 26 - Nov 1, 2020, Mormon 1-6 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Who does the Church feel more threatened by – Jack Mormons or exMormons? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of...
by annotatedbom
Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ex mo LGBQTI supportingNZ PM wins again
Replies: 3
Views: 1852

Re: Ex mo LGBQTI supportingNZ PM wins again

Fifi!

Just one word: Perfect!
by annotatedbom
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 41
Replies: 4
Views: 1879

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 41

deacon blues wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:50 am
Amen. Be it ever so humble there’s no place like NOM. 😁
Hahaaa! I read that in my head inthe voice of Jim Carrey’s Grinch.
by annotatedbom
Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:01 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 41
Replies: 4
Views: 1879

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 41

Thank you for this and all the hard work you do. A bit OT but before I joined this site, while browsing the forum, seeing these threads and finding the annotated BoM site was what finally tipped me into wanting to be a part of the discussions here. What an empowering find, getting lost for hours on...
by annotatedbom
Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 41
Replies: 4
Views: 1879

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 41

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 41 , Oct 19-25, 2020, 3 Ne 27 - 4 Ne If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Would it be better if I had not been born? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about ...
by annotatedbom
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 40
Replies: 2
Views: 1608

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 40

The 3rd Nephi 21:12-15 prophecy was very important in the early Church. I believe one reason Zion was designated in Missouri was because Andrew Jackson and others were forcing all the Indians to move west. There was a feeling that the Saints and Indians would unite to build the temple, and that the...
by annotatedbom
Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 40
Replies: 2
Views: 1608

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 40

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 40 , Oct 12-18, 2020, 3 Ne 20-26 It's good to be back from conference weekend. I'm glad to report I didn't watch any of it. Though my wife did have it on at our house for a short time on Saturday, I was outside working during that. At any rate, back to the BoM. If I wanted...
by annotatedbom
Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 39
Replies: 4
Views: 2380

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 39

the anachronisms within Jesus' visit are things I never would've known as a member, but make so much sense now. This. And, I have to remind myself all the time that I didn’t know this stuff as a believer and probably would have dismissed it with a shallow apologetic, because I “knew” the gospel was...
by annotatedbom
Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 39
Replies: 4
Views: 2380

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 39

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 39 , Sep 28 - Oct 11, 2020, 3 Ne 17-19 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Does Jesus refer to what would be anachronisms? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations...
by annotatedbom
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 38
Replies: 9
Views: 4462

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 38

Good one, A-Bom. The one that first caused me problems was the talk about chickens: 3 Nephi 10:4 ...how oft have I gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and have nourished you. 5 And again, how oft would I have gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, Th...
by annotatedbom
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 38
Replies: 9
Views: 4462

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 38

This is another great one! The reality is, I don't know if any one of the ideas I've published on my site is original. I don't often find a need to quote or provide credit because the ideas are usually so ubiquitous as to be common understanding. I remember early on listening to the Mormon Stories ...
by annotatedbom
Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:16 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 38
Replies: 9
Views: 4462

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 38

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 38 , Sep 21-27, 2020, 3 Ne 12-16 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Are some of Jesus’ Bible quotes in the Book of Mormon problematic? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other...
by annotatedbom
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 37
Replies: 4
Views: 2452

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 37

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 37 , Sep 14-20, 2020, 3 Ne 8-11 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Does Jesus’ visit to the Americas present some glaring inconsistencies? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some o...