NOM

Thanks for all the feedback. If you are interested to see how things panned out please head over to the mixed relationships section and see a post 'slowly; slowly catchy monkey'...

RJ

How to say this? Bearing in mind that this post refers to the original post in this thread and another post on another part of the board. I asked yesterday on another thread for incontestable evidence. But other than casual conversation or conforming the wackiness of the COJCOLDS the evidence isn't ...

Thanks for the replies so far. I'm really looking for logic and facts. We've already discussed, the implausibility of COJCLDS being the one true church given the minuscule global membership, the injustice of LBGT, the role of women in the church etc. and those things weigh heavily on a very creaking...

If you were given one hour to sit with your TBM/NOM spouse and explain why the church is demonstrably false, what would your big hitters be? What are the points that you would make that could be considered more or less kryptonite to the truth claims of the church? I know there's CES letter, Letter t...

2nd anointing is another major shelf breaker.

Chances are that you will get you second anointing of you are a SP/GA

Seems most of those are white collar upper middle class

What about the janitors, blue collar workers?

Elitist boys club nonsense.

So shoving your head up your own ass and feeling the fuzzies seems to end all disputes?!?!?!?

A) Shooting blanks B) Didn't do the dirty If (A) is having carnal - fails my righteous prophet test (B) Brigham Young said he did - making BY a self-serving liar - QED BY fails my righteous prophet test Therefore either JS or BY fail my righteous prophet test: LDS church is led by men who fail my ri...

remember this little gem? "The story is told of a council meeting involving the Prophet Joseph Smith and the Twelve Apostles. During the meeting, the Prophet rebuked Brigham Young from head o toe in front of the others, accusing him of something he had not done. When Joseph had finished his rebuke, ...

Red Ryder wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:31 pm

I’m going to coin a new term for these fireside gatherings on doubts.

The Mormon Fyreside - where apostles promise answers but deliver hurrican tents, soaked mattresses, and cheese sandwiches!

Watched the Fyre documentary on Netflix. Was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

The objectivity of fact is not the whole story. Surely an acceptance and awareness of the truth matters? ... (1)Well, again, we would have to have to define "truth" wouldn't we? (2) but that's their choice isn't it? On point (1) that can be a pretty wide discussion, the Philosophy of Epistemology, ...

However, people don't always want medical truths either - consider people who smoke and cite the evidence of their 90 year old uncle who has smoked since he was ten years of age and was knocked over by a bus. And evidenced-based medicine isn't a given either e.g. drug trials funded by big pharma, p...

I'd also bet that if you were dealing with a medical issue, the "truths" that you doctor shares with you based on current scientific knowledge and tests are going to be much more important than any "truths" your doctor got from emotions. I'm pretty dang sure gravity is true. I doubt I could find to...

You can't handle the truth

Already listened and awaiting the second instalment - thank you.

do we still have to covenant to give all we have to the COJCOLDS?

the answer is no.No I do not want to clean public lavatories in any circumstances.

Glad to see you taking control. It's not easy.

Within 24 hours though, he brought home a bouquet of flowers for me, and I left him a small gift - brand new garments for him with a note that said I love him just the way he is - and we had some very good talks about his fears and my issues. It is the most emotionally connected I have felt to him ...

to answer a question not set: where has the church changed their story? I can't think of one thing about the church where there isn't a twist or murky story. WoW, BoA, BoM, Baptism (early saints used to baptise and rebaptise to keep cleansing sins). Temples ceremony, paid ministry, marriage (polygam...

get help.

understand that life can be wholly better - this is not how you are, or need to be.

Get selfish. Reclaim your authority and happiness.