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by Hagoth
Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What improvements would you want for church?
Replies: 7
Views: 4932

Re: What improvements would you want for church?

On the local level: -dispensers for "a diet soda that shall remain nameless." -headphones that let you tune to another station when things get really boring -make the sacrament like testimony meeting, anyone who feels inspired to do so can bless and pass the sacrament -lessons that are actually des...
by Hagoth
Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Gob Doesn’t Love Me and Earth is an Insignificant Ball Travelling through Cold, Dark Space
Replies: 15
Views: 7475

Re: Gob Doesn’t Love Me and Earth is an Insignificant Ball Travelling through Cold, Dark Space

One thing Mormonism does very well, especially if you have served a mission, is to convince you that no other church or philosophy could possibly have truth and that no other kind of God is believable, so once you lose your testimony of the Mormon God that Joseph encountered in the grove, and the au...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Moderators, hosting, and other admin
Replies: 67
Views: 30178

Re: Moderators, hosting, and other admin

Mayan Elephant wrote:Hey cwald, looks like we got callings in the High Priest Group to unorganize not moving people after our home teaching isn't done.

That's perfect.
ME, what kind of ransom does Cwald have to pay to get his face back?
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Moderators, hosting, and other admin
Replies: 67
Views: 30178

Re: Moderators, hosting, and other admin

Froggie wrote:IMO, 8 is way too many mods. That requires correlation to correlate, which is simply not efficient. My experience in moderating suggests that three is a very good number.

My name is Froggie. I am Female.

Big green hugs,

Froggie
Hi Froggie, glad you found us!
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Gob Doesn’t Love Me and Earth is an Insignificant Ball Travelling through Cold, Dark Space
Replies: 15
Views: 7475

Re: Gob Doesn’t Love Me and Earth is an Insignificant Ball Travelling through Cold, Dark Space

Welcome, Shawn! I think I see your problem. You need to start praying god God to rescue you from the clutched of Gob! My dear and very faithful wife does tell me how God works in subtle ways in her life. I could respond with a skeptical response about confirmation bias and cherry picking of pattern ...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why is Satan a better communicator?
Replies: 1
Views: 2288

Why is Satan a better communicator?

I hear all the time in church about how clever and powerful Satan is and how effectively he's getting his message out. He's making it very clear what he wants everybody to do, whether it's looking at porn, voting for same-sex marriage, reading anti-mormon literature, using elicit drugs, what have yo...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What was God commanding Martin Harris NOT to reveal in this revelation?
Replies: 18
Views: 10221

Re: What was God commanding Martin Harris NOT to reveal in this revelation?

OK, this is the section that was "revealed" when Harris, a universalist, had a meltdown when he first read about a literal hell of fire and brimstone in the BoM. He freaked out and demanded a "commandment" (revelation from Joseph). This was a problem for Joseph because he needed Harris's money to pu...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What was God commanding Martin Harris NOT to reveal in this revelation?
Replies: 18
Views: 10221

Re: What was God commanding Martin Harris NOT to reveal in this revelation?

Was this before the loss of the hundred sixteen pages? If so I would suspect that what it's talking about.

What have you got in mind, HIPS?
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:19 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Politics Post - Evan McMullin
Replies: 45
Views: 22371

Re: Politics Post - Evan McMullin

I think it would be awesome if, when they show the big, post-election map, every state has voted for either Donald or Hillary - except Utah. The whole world will be wondering what the hell is going on here.
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What kind of list am I on?
Replies: 12
Views: 10553

Re: What kind of list am I on?

Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed to be on the list. If they kept harassing me to do the stuff I can no longer do I would just disengage completely. I'm hoping some wise leader, probably the SP I mentioned earlier, believes me when I say I'm only there to support my wife and they don't want to lose ...
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Book of Mormon describes Church of the Devil as Current COB
Replies: 6
Views: 4563

Re: Book of Mormon describes Church of the Devil as Current COB

I have also noticed a striking similarity with the Zoramites, at least when the get up on the rameumptum and thank God for making them superior to everyone else: "thanking their God that they were chosen of him, and that he did not lead them away after the tradition of their brethren."
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apostate Quotes for Faithful Talks
Replies: 12
Views: 7646

Re: Apostate Quotes for Faithful Talks

he "Fight Club" quote did lead the bishopric to ask me to work with some of the more challenging youth in the ward. The figured that anyone with a strong enough testimony(!) to quote from Fight Club was obviously a good fit to fellowship the youth flirting with apostasy. So, are you considering sta...
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apostate Quotes for Faithful Talks
Replies: 12
Views: 7646

Re: Apostate Quotes for Faithful Talks

Today I understand that Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who does not participate enthusiastically -Robert Kirby “People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just beca...
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What kind of list am I on?
Replies: 12
Views: 10553

Re: What kind of list am I on?

It must be really confusing to have a member who doesn't believe, yet doesn't seem to be struggling in any way, who attends SM meetings regularly but won't go to HPG, who won't accept a calling but is happy to scrub the toilets, and (thanks to a very understanding former BP/now SP) is still a recomm...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:35 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Mrs. Hagoth is reading RSR
Replies: 20
Views: 11056

Re: Mrs. Hagoth is reading RSR

That's great, Hagoth. I hope she comes away with more appreciation of your position. My wife read it right after I confessed I no longer believe (which happened not long after I read RSR). She said it reaffirmed her faith, and she has never waivered a single bit since then. Sigh. Good for her for a...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: An image to show how things are here.
Replies: 8
Views: 5830

Re: An image to show how things are here.

If you consider the topography of Holland it sorta becomes metaphorical by default.
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What kind of list am I on?
Replies: 12
Views: 10553

What kind of list am I on?

HIPS's excellent thread about NOMing up his prayer got me thinking about this. After I turned down a couple of prayer assignments, a PEC invitation and a couple of callings they stopped bugging me, even though there has been a complete leadership turnover since then. I did get a stake calling extend...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Asked to pray in church
Replies: 11
Views: 5650

Re: Asked to pray in church

That's an opportunity well used, HIPS. After my disaffection I really started dreading public prayer. Finally I declined to accept the offer and I have never been asked since. It almost makes me feel like my bishop really is inspired.
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The leaked videos
Replies: 11
Views: 7157

Re: The leaked videos

I'm not sure they were really listening to the presenters as much as trying to make sure there was no chance of them being gay.
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Different First Visions Accounts Shouldn't Challenge Your Faith - Whatever
Replies: 13
Views: 8330

Re: Different First Visions Accounts Shouldn't Challenge Your Faith - Whatever

When I hear the older dudes in HPG telling amazing, miraculous stories from their mission 50 years ago, in extreme detail, right down to word-for-word dialog, I always wonder what REALLY happened. Same with the official FV story. I think we need look no further than the before and after appearance o...