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tapirrider
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Post by tapirrider » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:22 pm

New to the board. Anything I should know?

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Post by oliver_denom » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:28 pm

tapirrider wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:22 pm
New to the board. Anything I should know?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
“You want to know something? We are still in the Dark Ages. The Dark Ages--they haven't ended yet.” - Vonnegut

L'enfer, c'est les autres - JP

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Re: New to the board

Post by TestimonyLost » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:17 am

Welcome! This is a safe place with good people. We have a pretty dim view of the church at times, but I haven't found a better place for support if you're struggling to deal with the LDS church in one way or another.

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Post by MoPag » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:48 am

Welcome to the ward family! We have a very diverse ward with people in all stages of faith transition. We also have members who have moved on to other religions or belief systems, and members who have decided that the best life for them is one without spiritualty or religion. Despite our diversity we've made a great place where we can share, learn, grow, laugh, cry and heal. Welcome to the fold Tapirrider!
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: New to the board

Post by Corsair » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:51 am

tapirrider wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:22 pm
New to the board. Anything I should know?
Yes, you are not the crazy person in this relationship with the church. The LDS church is not necessarily evil, but it does insist on holding more moral authority than seems warranted. I encourage you to figure out what your moral center truly should be and use that to make a better life for yourself whether or not you keep your LDS membership and a temple recommend.

Be kind to the believers around you, especially if you are married to one. It turns out that only the rarest of believers really want to know what you think about the LDS church unless it matches an orthodox position espoused in general conference. It's rarely useful to burn bridges with your loved ones. Don't spend time justifying any break from LDS standards. Instead, find a more authentic way to live and let the believers come to you.

The LDS church does not fear persecution. It fears being ignored. In light of that, we are not trying to tear down the LDS church. It still works for many people including a lot of spouses of regular board members. A surprising number of regular forum posters hold a current temple recommend and a ward calling for their own reasons.

You are not going to offend anyone with even handed criticism of the LDS church, but we want discussions to be civil. It's not that interesting or helpful to say, "The church sucks!" Instead, we are better off starting a discussion with, "The LDS church has been profoundly unhelpful to me and my family when it does this thing..."

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Post by Red Ryder » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:05 am

I have to disagree with Corsair for once.

Sometimes just saying the "The church sucks" is perfectly fine.

The church sucks...
Your time,
Your money,
Your sexuality,
Your individuality,
Your sensuality,
Your personality,
Your Sunday afternoon,
Your Monday night,
Your spouse when you fight,
Your joy,
Your love,
Your invalidated above,
Your relationship with The Lord,
Your friendships from the ward

Oh, and welcome to the board!
Elder Nelson seems to have somehow become the mouthpiece of the mouthpiece of God. ~ Hagoth

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Re: New to the board

Post by Nonny » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:30 am

Welcome tapirrider. I hope you enjoy being part of our little group. It's nice to have another tapir rider. Just please don't use the same avatar as Hagoth, cuz then I would be really confused. ;)

Tell us a little about yourself. What brings you here? How did you find us?

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Re: New to the board

Post by Corsair » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:54 am

Red Ryder wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:05 am
I have to disagree with Corsair for once.

Sometimes just saying the "The church sucks" is perfectly fine.

The church sucks...
Your time,
Your money,
Your sexuality,
Your individuality,
Your sensuality,
Your personality,
Your Sunday afternoon,
Your Monday night,
Your spouse when you fight,
Your joy,
Your love,
Your invalidated above,
Your relationship with The Lord,
Your friendships from the ward

Oh, and welcome to the board!
OK, you may have a point. I have to grant that you backed up your statement with a long list of discernably true instances when that giant sucking sound can be quickly attributed to a single root cause. That does seem to make the church suck.

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Re: New to the board

Post by Linked » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:47 pm

Welcome to NOM tapirrider! I look forward to your posts.
"I would write about life. Every person would be exactly as important as any other. All facts would also be given equal weightiness. Nothing would be left out. Let others bring order to chaos. I would bring chaos to order" - Kurt Vonnegut

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Re: New to the board

Post by SeeNoEvil » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:07 pm

Welcome tapirrider! We are a great bunch of misfits who all know the real story of the Mormon church. Tell us about yourself. What brought you here?
How can we help you?
"Every event that has taken place in this universe has led you to this moment.
... The real question is, what will you do with this moment?" - Unknown

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Re: New to the board

Post by Korihor » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:30 pm

Where can I take Tapir Riding lessons?
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Re: New to the board

Post by Corsair » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:50 pm

Korihor wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:30 pm
Where can I take Tapir Riding lessons?
Clearly he needs an appropriate Tapir Riding avatar also.

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Re: New to the board

Post by Korihor » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:02 pm

Corsair wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:50 pm
Korihor wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:30 pm
Where can I take Tapir Riding lessons?
Clearly he needs an appropriate Tapir Riding avatar also.
Moroni already has his trusty steed - but I'm pretty sure Jesus needs his New World transportation beast
Reading can severely damage your ignorance.

Send me a friend request on Facebook, if you want, if you're comfortable with it, or not, it's all good.
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Re: New to the board

Post by Newme » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:45 pm

tapirrider wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:22 pm
New to the board. Anything I should know?
Yes, a lot!
And lots you need to unlearn. ;)
We're all in this process together!
Welcome! :)

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Re: New to the board

Post by No Tof » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:23 am

Welcome to NOM.
Seems like for now, exploring is more important than knowing.

Hope you share where you are in your own faith journey.
Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and right doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there.
Rumi

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Re: New to the board

Post by AllieOop » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:44 am

tapirrider wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:22 pm
New to the board. Anything I should know?
Just be yourself....no one judges here and there's a great feeling of acceptance and understanding. I hope you'll tell us more about yourself!

Welcome :)
"There came a time when the desire to know the truth about the church became stronger than the desire to know the church was true."

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