Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by Random » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:47 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:48 am
-1000 for saying that Joseph knew he had to find the true church to gain forgiveness.

No, make that -10,000.
And, thus, new doctrine and new history has just been born.
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by Reuben » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:51 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:48 am
-1000 for saying that Joseph knew he had to find the true church to gain forgiveness.

No, make that -10,000.
It just occurred to me that this might be an attempt to harmonize the accounts. The most prevalent theme across all of them is forgiveness, but it isn't in the 1838 account at all.
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by Random » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:54 am

alas wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:37 am
Do we get to give Joseph worship points for all the advertisements for books and movies about “Young Joseph” and such because I have seen ads for about three different versions. Over and over, every time I look up from my video game.
I wouldn't, because-technically-it wasn't during conference itself.
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by wtfluff » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:49 pm

lostinmiddlemormonism wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:10 am
Crying Eyring - exactly how far is his tongue up Rusy's ass? +10 for making it more than 2 minutes without crying.
Did Hank make it ALL THE WAY to 3 minutes before turning on the water works? :shock:
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by Just This Guy » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:02 pm

Okay, I have read through this whole thread, can someone post pics of this broccoli & cauliflower?
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:02 pm

Reuben wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:51 am
nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:48 am
-1000 for saying that Joseph knew he had to find the true church to gain forgiveness.

No, make that -10,000.
It just occurred to me that this might be an attempt to harmonize the accounts. The most prevalent theme across all of them is forgiveness, but it isn't in the 1838 account at all.
It probably is, but it's still a terrible teaching.
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by Reuben » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:04 pm

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:02 pm
Reuben wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:51 am
nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:48 am
-1000 for saying that Joseph knew he had to find the true church to gain forgiveness.

No, make that -10,000.
It just occurred to me that this might be an attempt to harmonize the accounts. The most prevalent theme across all of them is forgiveness, but it isn't in the 1838 account at all.
It probably is, but it's still a terrible teaching.
It's absolutely terrible. How is it different from current doctrine, though? From what I can tell, it's only an anachronism.

It's also terrible apologetics, if that's what it is. Joseph Smith was forgiven without restoring or joining the Only True and Living Church, if I remember the earliest account correctly.
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:57 pm

Just This Guy wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:02 pm
Okay, I have read through this whole thread, can someone post pics of this broccoli & cauliflower?
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:16 pm

Saturday Morning Talk Stats:

Rusty +15
Ballard -25
Rasband (not that Rasband) +80
Jones -100
Anderson -39.75
Holmes -9
Eyring -10,030

Points of note:
Only 1 mention of COVID 19 in a talk by Rusty.
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by Random » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:32 pm

Reuben wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:51 am
nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:48 am
-1000 for saying that Joseph knew he had to find the true church to gain forgiveness.

No, make that -10,000.
It just occurred to me that this might be an attempt to harmonize the accounts. The most prevalent theme across all of them is forgiveness, but it isn't in the 1838 account at all.
But in zero of them was he told he "had to find the true church to gain forgiveness." That's a downright lie. "Join none of them" does not mean "I can't forgive you unless you find the true church." In fact, there was no true church for him to join. And, in fact, God does not need a church to forgive people. That's a stupid reason to join a church imo.

P.S. I just remembered that (join the true church to gain forgiveness) was the basis for our missionary work when I went on a mission forty years ago. The fact that I now think that's stupid shows how much I have changed.
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
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Re: Saturday Morning NOMference Thread!!!!

Post by Just This Guy » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:44 pm

Thanks, MoPag! :lol: :lol:
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