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alas wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:59 pm

And, they have to have a gospel purpose. They can’t just be for social interaction. -613


I just felt like it needed a weird number, because it is a weird belief that socialization for itself has no purpose.

Socialization is the gospel. It's a point leaders don't get. They're more concerned about saving a dollar and improving a ward key indicator stat.

+ 10 most realistic speaker yet.

All are alike unto God. And he sounds like he believes it. +20

+50 for quoting Carol Lynn Pearson, even if he may not know that.

nibbler wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:06 pm

alas wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:59 pm

And, they have to have a gospel purpose. They can’t just be for social interaction. -613


I just felt like it needed a weird number, because it is a weird belief that socialization for itself has no purpose.

Socialization is the gospel. It's a point leaders don't get. They're more concerned about saving a dollar and improving a ward key indicator stat.

I agree totally. And the leaders just don’t get it. It isn’t just about saving a buck, because even free things are no good if they don’t have a “priesthood purpose”. Which really tans my hide because women don’t have priesthood, and calling it “priesthood purpose” is so so bling to the fact that women are people, not just extensions of the nearest man.

I guess we're gonna hear from Rusty after all.

I predict 8 new temples announced

More beautiful music.

8,000 points to the music people, all who participated.

Mystery and uncertainty are parts of life regardless.

Oh gods a new buzz word...

Rusty looks like the emperor on star wars

I say we coopt the phrase "think celestially." Here is my contribution.

When your church breaks federal law, think celestial. When your church calls (alleged) felons as apostles, think celestial. When your stake president is arrested for abuse, think celestial.

blazerb wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:24 pm

When your church breaks federal law, think celestial. When your church calls (alleged) felons as apostles, think celestial. When your stake president is arrested for abuse, think celestial.

I am already sick to death of his new buzz words. I think I will strangle anyone who says it to me in real life.

The church can also become an obsession and an addiction

-50 for sneaking in a chastity lesson

MoPag wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:19 pm

Oh gods a new buzz word...

Hear him and a few others didn't take. While I'm anxious for "covenant path" to go away forever, I'd rather it be replaced with nothing.

I don't doubt Nelson's sincerity in his comments about covenants, kingdoms of glory, etc. but it sounds like an extremely sad and dissatisfying way to live, at least to me. A life centered on anxiety over a coming life that isn't here yet. A life centered over your family relationships being held hostage/for ransom. No thanks.

Opps, forgot to give minus points.

-200 for newest buzz words.

-100 for forgetting that a person can become addicted to the church.


And now he is homophobing.

-300

blazerb wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:18 pm

Mystery and uncertainty are parts of life regardless.

And he talked about them as if they are bad things. Uncertainty feeds curiosity, exploration, revelation, hope.

Gotta say, church revenues must be way down.

I don't pay very close attention but it seems like several conferences have gone by without a mention of tithing. I've heard references to tithing in at least a half dozen talks this conference.