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2bizE
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I wish...

Post by 2bizE » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:51 am

I wish my crazy ancestors would have never got messed up in the whole mormon church thing....damn them.
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Re: I wish...

Post by Not Buying It » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:22 am

I think that sometimes, but then I probably would never have been born, and I would never have met my wife, my kids would definitely never have been born.

I'd settle for my wife seeing the Church for what it is and leaving it with me. That shouldn't be too much to wish for, right?
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Re: I wish...

Post by Red Ryder » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:12 am

I wish the church would grow up and let the members be adults which includes choosing your own underwear. Or no underwear of that is your choice.

Religious underwear? pffffff!
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Re: I wish...

Post by Anon70 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:36 am

I wish there was a "smoking gun" revealed or that a GA or one of the top 15 confessed it was all made up.

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Re: I wish...

Post by MoPag » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:02 am

Anon70 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:36 am
I wish there was a "smoking gun" revealed or that a GA or one of the top 15 confessed it was all made up.
Yes!! One of the Q15 could crack. Or maybe there is a public rift between them and TBMs are forced to take sides. That could be fun.
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: I wish...

Post by mooseman » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:56 am

I wish i could turn back time, redo the last 20 years or so fixing my life.

I wish i could have open honest discussions with friends and family about my hopes dreams and fear without feeling out their level of support on the issue.

I wish people where a bit more vocal in kirtland so nauvoo fell apart.

I wish correlation didnt happen. That our culture still supported free thought.
It's frustrating to see the last resort in a discussion of facts be: I disregard those facts because of my faith. Why even talk about facts if the last resort is to put faith above all facts that are contrary to your faith?

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Re: I wish...

Post by LSOF » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:31 pm

I wish Mormonism to go the way of Scientology.
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Re: I wish...

Post by w2mz » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:33 pm

mooseman wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:56 am
I wish i could turn back time, redo the last 20 years or so fixing my life.
This ^. Only 30 years not 20.
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Re: I wish...

Post by SeeNoEvil » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:09 pm

I wish the church would confess the lie and repent.
w2mz wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:33 pm
mooseman wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:56 am
I wish i could turn back time, redo the last 20 years or so fixing my life.
This ^. Only 30 years not 20.
This only 45 years.
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Re: I wish...

Post by mooseman » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:51 pm

w2mz wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:33 pm
mooseman wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:56 am
I wish i could turn back time, redo the last 20 years or so fixing my life.
This ^. Only 30 years not 20.
Well, i am only 36 lol i dont think i would have done/been able to do much diffrently before i was 16. After though....
It's frustrating to see the last resort in a discussion of facts be: I disregard those facts because of my faith. Why even talk about facts if the last resort is to put faith above all facts that are contrary to your faith?

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Re: I wish...

Post by Rebel » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:35 pm

I'm with Red Ryder let us all be adults and make our own choices. I also wish I had never joined back in 1981 .

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Re: I wish...

Post by Hagoth » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:28 pm

Anon70 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:36 am
I wish there was a "smoking gun" revealed or that a GA or one of the top 15 confessed it was all made up.
I think there is a pretty impressive pile of smoking guns. My wish is that everyone would let their guard down long enough to look at them.
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Re: I wish...

Post by Corsair » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:34 pm

I wish I had some coffee here at my house.

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Re: I wish...

Post by FiveFingerMnemonic » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:14 am

I wish I could go out and do what I want on Sunday without my wife and kids being ashamed.

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Re: I wish...

Post by No Tof » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:28 am

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Corsair wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:34 pm
I wish I had some coffee here at my house.
Come join me. Coffee is hot, the mountain view is lovely. A good time to visit your ol mish


I wish it hadnt taken so long to feel comfortable being in the church but not of the church. Five years of anguished searching for answers to my questions and many heart wrenching discussions with DW. Thank you NOM ward for helping me when no real people were there.
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Re: I wish...

Post by Anon70 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:20 am

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:14 am
I wish I could go out and do what I want on Sunday without my wife and kids being ashamed.
This. Except maybe replace ashamed with confused and disappointed.

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Re: I wish...

Post by SeeNoEvil » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:32 am

It's Sunday. I wish everyone could enjoy this beautiful forest I am roaming in instead of sitting in a boring old church listening to the same messages over and over and over.
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Re: I wish...

Post by Corsair » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:43 pm

No Tof wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:28 am
Come join me. Coffee is hot, the mountain view is lovely. A good time to visit your ol mish
Since my old mission was Canada, I would have to visit sooner than later. Arizona is just starting to be pleasant and I can't trust Canadian weather for the next six months.

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