Sunday morning NOMfrence

This is for encouragement, ideas, and support for people going through a faith transition no matter where you hope to end up. This is also the place to laugh, cry, and love together.
User avatar
didyoumythme
Posts: 190
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:26 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by didyoumythme » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:36 am

Calling on Radio Free Mormon for a follow up podcast about miracles!
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease being honest, or cease being mistaken. - Anonymous

User avatar
w2mz
Posts: 246
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:38 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by w2mz » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:37 am

That last talk could be boiled down to, crap happens. Just deal with it.
The church has engineered your eternal family into a commodity that can be purchased with an annual fee. The fact that full tithing payment is a requirement for saving ordinances is the biggest red flag imaginable. Hagoth

User avatar
nibbler
Posts: 951
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:12 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by nibbler » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:41 am

w2mz wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:37 am
That last talk could be boiled down to, crap happens. Just deal with it.
So, an above average conference talk?

8-)
We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are.
– Anais Nin

User avatar
MoPag
Posts: 3915
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:43 am

I can't stop staring at Emperor Palpatine 's hair.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

User avatar
The Beast
Posts: 152
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:32 am

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by The Beast » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:46 am

Bednar makes me exceedingly stabby.
Magic clubhouse rituals are how we show love for God. What about service?
Are you on the square? Are you on the level?

User avatar
MoPag
Posts: 3915
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:54 am

They are going to meme the hell out of this talk
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

User avatar
The Beast
Posts: 152
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:32 am

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by The Beast » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:57 am

MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:54 am
They are going to meme the hell out of this talk
The memes will exceed all that have come before...exceedingly.
Are you on the square? Are you on the level?

User avatar
DPRoberts
Posts: 400
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:48 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by DPRoberts » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:57 am

Cue the Bacharach/David hit tune

Promises, promises , I'm all through with . . .
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. -anon
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born

User avatar
MoPag
Posts: 3915
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:59 am

Oh please be a suck up!
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

User avatar
nibbler
Posts: 951
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:12 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by nibbler » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:00 am

Took one for the team. Went on vacation to Hawaii, leaving his wife at home with the sick kid.

I'm just nit picking. :P
We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are.
– Anais Nin

User avatar
w2mz
Posts: 246
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:38 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by w2mz » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:04 am

My question: Are Hope and peace really only available through Christ and the atonement? Are any atheists at peace? Can they be at peace without the Mormon Jesus?
The church has engineered your eternal family into a commodity that can be purchased with an annual fee. The fact that full tithing payment is a requirement for saving ordinances is the biggest red flag imaginable. Hagoth

User avatar
Newme
Posts: 863
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:43 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by Newme » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:05 am

Thought: General conference unifies millions of people throughout the world.
That's powerful! Superbowl, world cup, holidays etc also serve to connect people with one another. I think many people really don't care so much what it is that connects them with others - the connection itself seems to be what's so craved. Unfortunately, there are multiple costs to try to belong.

What other organization can unify as much as religious ones?
Is it possible to have such powerful unity while not requiring herd mentality?

User avatar
MoPag
Posts: 3915
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:10 am

+5 for saying meds are good for mental health
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

User avatar
MoPag
Posts: 3915
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:12 am

+5 for promoting open mindedness
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

User avatar
Newme
Posts: 863
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:43 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by Newme » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:12 am

w2mz wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:04 am
My question: Are Hope and peace really only available through Christ and the atonement? Are any atheists at peace? Can they be at peace without the Mormon Jesus?
I also don't believe in human sacrifice-scapegoating Jesus. To me, human sacrifice & shifting blame are both immoral and poor excuses of hope & peace. However, I believe that each of us craves to be and feel loved unconditionally. That type of pure love cannot be trusted for fallible, biased human beings. So, I believe deepest peace & hope are found through faith in God (however you define God).

I try to imagine God in place of when people worship Jesus. Jesus subconsciously serves as a personification of spirituality - human flesh easier to relate to than "spirit" or "intelligent design."
Last edited by Newme on Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:20 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Silver Girl
Posts: 375
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:31 am

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by Silver Girl » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:15 am

Now we have proof that MPs will completely and deliberately ignore requests from missionaries who want to go home. Yep, lots of those wrecking balls out there in the mission fields.

Meanwhile, Darth Vader could learn from the message to widen his lens.
.
.
Silver Girl is sailing into the future. She is no longer scared.

User avatar
DPRoberts
Posts: 400
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:48 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by DPRoberts » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:16 am

Using himself as a bad example? You don't see that often.

Zwick +5
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. -anon
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born

User avatar
Hagoth
Posts: 7113
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:13 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by Hagoth » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:23 am

Zwick +10 for giving the best conference talk so far.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain

Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."

User avatar
MoPag
Posts: 3915
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:28 am

Zwick did a good job. He actually had to think outside the Sunday school box to help that kid. And like DPROBERTS said, he used himself as a bad example. I'm giving him another +5
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

User avatar
MoPag
Posts: 3915
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:05 pm

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:38 am

Now wanting to help others is a miracle?
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 89 guests