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NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:15 pm
by sparky
This morning I had a homemade mocha as I was finishing my Sunday school lesson, then went to church and gave my lesson. The lesson got a typical positive response, despite the fact that I focused on the humanist elements and avoided any kind of supernatural discussion of God or Jesus (I consider myself a philosophical naturalist and an atheist). Then I skipped third hour to come home and make a delicious lunch for myself. All without an ounce of guilt.

Does this make me simply a NOM, or a reprehensible hypocrite?

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:53 pm
by Hagoth
You would be a hypocrite if you told your class not to go home and not to drink coffee.

Otherwise, it sounds like free-agency doing its thing. You have graduated to the level that you realize you can make your own choices about how much to give to a volunteer organization that is trying to own you.

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:06 pm
by moksha
Sounds like it was a good talk.

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:10 pm
by wtfluff
Hagoth wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:53 pm
You would be a hypocrite if you told your class not to go home and not to drink coffee.
This.

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:51 pm
by Archimedes
You're good. Who's keeping track anyway?

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:56 am
by Hagoth
Archimedes wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:51 pm
You're good. Who's keeping track anyway?
Santa.

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:38 am
by Corsair
Hagoth wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:56 am
Archimedes wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:51 pm
You're good. Who's keeping track anyway?
Santa.
This is more than just a humorous response. You should seriously consider that judgement of that person who is putting out Christmas presents late at night on Christmas Eve. Does that person approve of the principles you are striving to uphold? Does the person that purchased Christmas gifts appreciate how you are trying to improve the lives of your ward members with a lesson about the humanity in us all? Your actions promote families staying together in love and harmony in spite of the poorly constructed rhetoric on apostasy coming from a multi-billion dollar institutional church.

Surely someone who knows how to give good gifts would see your doctrinal charity towards fellow humans. The parochial implementation of the Word of Wisdom tears apart too many families. It seems both wise and prudent to focus on the weightier matters of becoming a better person through introspection, kindness, and love. I am entirely in favor of seeking the approval of that giver of good gifts.

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:58 am
by achilles
NOM.

A hypocrite would judge everyone else drinking the mocha and chillaxing at home, all the while hiding his own behavior.

But since there is nothing to judge anybody else about, NOMs all around!

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:08 am
by Red Ryder
It makes you Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, or some other NORMAL religion!

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:13 am
by Mackman
Yeah what Red Ryder said !!!!

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:15 pm
by mylittlefactory
Is it wrong to put the finishing touches on your sunday school lesson with a Venti Americano in one hand?

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:44 pm
by Reuben
mylittlefactory wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:15 pm
Is it wrong to put the finishing touches on your sunday school lesson with a Venti Americano in one hand?
Yes. It should be a cappuccino. Unsweetened.

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:12 am
by sparky
mylittlefactory wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:15 pm
Is it wrong to put the finishing touches on your sunday school lesson with a Venti Americano in one hand?
I've been doing this for over a year and they haven't kicked me out yet. It's almost as if, despite the rhetoric of "worthiness" and keeping all the commandments just right, they don't really know or care what your testimony is like as long as you don't rock the boat too much.

My next lesson is going to be a real challenge: it covers Elijah controlling the weather, getting oil from a magical cruse, raising a kid from the dead, and calling down fire from heaven. :roll: Not really sure yet how I can spin that straw into secular humanist gold...

Re: NOM or hypocrite?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:51 pm
by deacon blues
Along similar lines, am I being a hypocrite when I attend a Presbyterian church, despite often entertaining deist, and even agnostic thoughts? sometimes I feel a pang of guilt.