NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Random » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:45 pm

MoPag wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:42 pm
+5 for reever!!
I second that. I love it! (and not in a mocking way at all)
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:47 pm

+5 for saying outsiders bring fresh perspectives
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Random » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:49 pm

This would give me such a guilt trip if I were still a member. If anyone leaves, it was my fault because I wasn't friendly enough (and I was totally not outgoing most of the time I was a member).
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Random » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:49 pm

MoPag wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:47 pm
+5 for saying outsiders bring fresh perspectives
If only they weren't absorbed. The fresh perspectives could really make a difference. Maybe they do in certain areas (I hope).
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Corsair » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:55 pm

It's a fairly nice talk actually. +5 for inviting people to come together.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:58 pm

Gong!!!!
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Random » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:00 pm

I like Soares - and Gong.
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:02 pm

Random wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:00 pm
I like Soares - and Gong.
I do too!
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Random » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:03 pm

Not announced in conference, but I just read there are no more ward mission leaders.

https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 70#p887970
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:05 pm

Random wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:03 pm
Not announced in conference, but I just read there are no more ward mission leaders.

https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 70#p887970
:o
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:06 pm

+10 this is a sweet, uplifting talk.
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Corsair » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:07 pm

Random wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:03 pm
Not announced in conference, but I just read there are no more ward mission leaders.

https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 70#p887970
My EQ president will not be excited about a change like this. He was already unamused by being retained as EQ president after the April conference.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Random » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:07 pm

Okay, it's one of those "This is different but not really" announcements. Sigh.
This was announced via email to bishoprics, EQ presidencies, RS presidencies, high council, stake presidency. It basically says the bishop now can shift the responsibility of missionary work and temple and family history work to the EQ presidency and RS presidency. The ward mission leader can work under the EQ president or not have one at all. Instead delegating it to the a member of the EQ presidency counselor.
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by Random » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:08 pm

Corsair wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:07 pm
Random wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:03 pm
Not announced in conference, but I just read there are no more ward mission leaders.

https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 70#p887970
My EQ president will not be excited about a change like this. He was already unamused by being retained as EQ president after the April conference.
I feel for him.
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:12 pm

The Gong talks about Jesus and not about Russ. Cool.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:13 pm

Piper
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:15 pm

Bill Reel is reporting that perhaps Oaks talk will be edited.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:17 pm

lostinmiddlemormonism wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:15 pm
Bill Reel is reporting that perhaps Oaks talk will be edited.
i hope so...ugh
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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:19 pm

His talk is NOT linked on lds.org. All the others are up.

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Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:20 pm

You really don't have to tell us what the ward "take" means. Also you are probably giving the translators elevated blood pressure. -5
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