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Reuben
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by Reuben » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:02 pm
lostinmiddlemormonism wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:08 pm
MoPag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:07 pm
He's quoting
himself from an earlier talk
Isn't that mental masturbation?
I think of it more like a one-human centipede.
So... President Oaks is da man! This is like golf, right? Lowest score wins?
Learn to doubt the stories you tell about yourselves and your adversaries.
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moksha
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by moksha » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:49 am
BTW, the Church appointed its first black American General Authority.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
-- Moksha
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Hagoth
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by Hagoth » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:04 am
moksha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:49 am
BTW, the Church appointed its first black American General Authority.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
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MoPag
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by MoPag » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:20 am
Random wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:13 pm
Oaks -13,000
Yep!
He really goes for those double digit negatives!
2bizE wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:31 pm
Can I order my coffee maker yet?
Not yet. But keep having faith.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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MoPag
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by MoPag » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:26 am
moksha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:49 am
BTW, the Church appointed its first black American General Authority.
https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/ ... -m-johnson
From the stuff I read about him on FB, (mostly from post mos) he's a good guy. He taught at BYU and BYU-H and his former students, even though they have left the church, have noting but good things to say about him.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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AdmiralHoldo
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by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:32 am
So by the church's timeline, if we ordained women right this very minute, we would expect to see the first female Seventy around the year 2060.
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Random
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by Random » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:45 am
2bizE wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:31 pm
Can I order my coffee maker yet?
I suspect that if this change was made, it would be made quietly. For example, converts would be allowed to be baptized while still drinking coffee and tea, then it might slip off the temple recommend questions somehow (perhaps bishops and stake presidents would be told not to withhold recommends for drinking them).
It has to be craftily changed, I think, to avoid mass shock among the typical true believer.
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.
Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
PK
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oliblish
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by oliblish » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:27 am
Random wrote:2bizE wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:31 pm
Can I order my coffee maker yet?
I suspect that if this change was made, it would be made quietly. For example, converts would be allowed to be baptized while still drinking coffee and tea, then it might slip off the temple recommend questions somehow (perhaps bishops and stake presidents would be told not to withhold recommends for drinking them).
It has to be craftily changed, I think, to avoid mass shock among the typical true believer.
Yeah, because those secret policy changes in the handbook go so smoothly...
Stands next to Kolob, called by the Egyptians Oliblish, which is the next grand governing creation near to the celestial or the place where God resides; holding the key of power also, pertaining to other planets; as revealed from God to Abraham
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Random
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by Random » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:48 am
oliblish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:27 am
Yeah, because those secret policy changes in the handbook go so smoothly...
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.
Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
PK
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MoPag
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by MoPag » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:06 am
AdmiralHoldo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:32 am
So by the church's timeline, if we ordained women right this very minute, we would expect to see the first female Seventy around the year 2060.
Wow that is sad.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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Random
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by Random » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:20 am
So Eyring threatened members with "sorrow to you and to those you love and even losses beyond your power to imagine" if you don't keep some unnamed promise automatically made while sustaining "servants" of God?
It's on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... ke_sure_i/
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.
Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
PK
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moksha
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by moksha » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:34 pm
Random wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:45 am
2bizE wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:31 pm
Can I order my coffee maker yet?
I suspect that if this change was made, it would be made quietly.
It might even be quietly put into the Bishops Handbook and not revealed until Mormon Leaks got ahold of it. Later, one of the Brethren would reveal that it was part of President Nelson's late-night revelations when he would send Wendy from the bedroom for better revelatory reception.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
-- Moksha
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Random
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by Random » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:32 pm
Sounds like their m.o. alright, Moksha.
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.
Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
PK
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