Cheer up Alas. Things could be worse: the person you love most could be a democrat!alas wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:07 pmOh, so we can’t call the church leaders “old white men” but it is OK to call the “effeminate old white men.” Hey, I know I am one who probably used the “old white men” to describe church leaders. But see, the person in the whole world I love the most is an old white man, what’s worse is he is a Republican old white man. So, I am not using it at all to say that there is anything wrong with old white men as individuals. There are several old white men in my family, in my neighborhood, and on NOM that I really like. The problem with the particular old white men who run the church is that they do not comprehend their own privilege of growing up white, male, and many of them wealthy. And if they didn’t grow up well off, well they are now with all the perks the church gives them that they don’t pay tithing or taxes on lots of it. But the worst thing about them is they live in a bubble that contains a bunch of old white yes-men, and even some yes-women. They have no concept of the poor people they ask to pay tithing before buying groceries for their kids. So, “old white men is the politest thing I could call them, and I am truly sorry if I offended you by implying there is something wrong with old white men. There is nothing wrong with old white men. There is something wrong with living in the world and not respecting or really listening to the needs of people who are not in your demographic, any demographic. I also dislike some people of other demographics who disrespect anyone not in their demographic. I have run into a few blacks like this, and some Mormons, a few Catholics, and some medical doctors who disrespected anyone who wasn’t a doctor.Blashyrkh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:27 pmI am not implying that politics can't be discussed here. However there is a civilized way of approaching it. When someone says "old-white men," yeah I find that offensive being an old-white man. What? Because I am old and white and a man my opinions and views are somehow negated? What if I were to refer to the mayor of SLC who has turned the city into a dump IMO as the ugly, old, rancid dyke? I wouldn't do that in normal conversation. Thats highly uncivilized and offensive. Rather, I would just refer to her as "the mayor of SLC who has turned SLC into a dump." Get it? Just because I find error with the church, which is the main focus of this sight, at least I thought so, does not mean that I have changed my political views. I am still as hard-right as I have ever been. Probably even more so as I gave up my compassionate side when I left the church. Bunch of effeminate, old, white men.
On a more serious note, I'm not sure what someone's race has to do with being wealthy or not. Where I live (SE United States) there are plenty of poor people of all races, and plenty of wealthy people of all races.