A one-liner that captures your disaffection

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by DPRoberts » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:04 pm

I cannot devote my life to an organization I find to be neither true nor truthful.

I cannot fit reality inside the church's box.

With a nod to Hermey: What's good about Mormonism isn't unique and what's unique isn't good.

I found blind obedience to be incompatible with personal progression.
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. -anon
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Newme » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:53 am

DPRoberts wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:08 pm
Newme wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:29 am
Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:08 pm
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
I like that. It’s similar to “I outgrew the cult.”
General authorities are substitutes for parental authorities.
Parental substitutes they were for me, particularly as I lost my parents earlier than most. And when I knew GAs were not inspired it felt like losing another parent, though less intense. That is one thing i outgrew. I also outgrew magical thinking, small-mindedness, religious elitism, judgemental thinking, and the need to think I know what, if anything, follows this life and how to control the outcome. I outgrew the need for certainty.

My three word one-liner has very deep meaning for me because I feel that my growth was inhibited in so many ways by TSCC. I could come up with a great deal more one-liners, but "I outgrew it" encapsulates a great quantity of meaning for someone who has experienced that growth.
I imagine that was rough, losing your parents young. It’s natural to seek parental substitutes - especially in that case. Maybe it also inspired you to grow up faster than most.

I have outgrew the cult, but I see good still and have compromised to raise our kids in it. But lately, one of my kids has been showing cultish shame toward me when he notices something I say or do that is not cult-approved. On the way home from church, I lectured them about the good and bad and had them repeat it to me - in their own words. They hated it, but I told them it’s important they are reminded of the other side of the picture, since they mostly only see the cultish side.

Btw - I like Princess Bride & remember your avatar from the old NOM.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by deacon blues » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:31 pm

I decided to go off road. ......religion-wise.
God is Love. God is Truth

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by 1smartdodog » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:45 am

When you have learned what I have you won’t need to ask me why.




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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by slavereeno » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:02 pm

I love all these.

Personally, I am currently in a "f**k the church" phase of my faith crisis.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Random » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:12 pm

I wanted freedom.



[Okay, that wasn't true, I didn't know I was enslaved, but that's what I see now, especially when I read posts from those who are still tied to memberships for whatever reasons.]
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Hermey » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:13 pm

This stops with me.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Keewon » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:40 pm

onesmartdog wrote:When you have learned what I have you won’t need to ask me why.
I love this! :)

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by deacon blues » Thu May 07, 2020 4:21 pm

Keewon wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:40 pm
onesmartdog wrote:When you have learned what I have you won’t need to ask me why.
I love this! :)
I love this too. I was going to add one other thought. "Boyd K. Packer and other leaders have given talks that convince me they prioritize obedience over truth. An example is: "The Mantle is Far, Far Greater than the intellect."
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by RubinHighlander » Thu May 07, 2020 7:01 pm

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 6:35 pm
I'm addicted to truth.
That's gold!
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by wtfluff » Thu May 07, 2020 10:37 pm

Now that the thread has been bumped.

I've heard and made up lots of one-liners over the years, some "funny," some "polite" so as to not hurt believers feelings; But honestly, at this point, I hope with most folks I can just cut to the chase and say:

The church is not true.
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. -Frater Ravus

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by PalmSprings » Thu May 07, 2020 10:39 pm

wtfluff wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:37 pm
Now that the thread has been bumped.

I've heard and made up lots of one-liners over the years, some "funny," some "polite" so as to not hurt believers feelings; But honestly, at this point, I hope with most folks I can just cut to the chase and say:

The church is not true.
Or you could have just said, "I'll just cut out the fluff." :D

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Palerider » Fri May 08, 2020 12:19 pm

wtfluff wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:37 pm


The church is not true.
Honest.....direct.....I like it. 8-)
"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily."

"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Exiled » Fri May 08, 2020 3:21 pm

For me it's "leave me alone." I get harassed by well-meaning members and family that want to reclaim the "lost." Or how about "I'm not lost, you are."

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Wonderment » Fri May 08, 2020 11:58 pm

One liner or one word that captures my disaffection: "Perfectionism".

Never good enough
Never good enough
You deserve guilt -- and shame !
Everyone must be perfect - in every word and deed !
NEVER good enough. :roll:

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Wonderment » Sat May 09, 2020 1:04 am

Also:

Remember, dear, that you're only a girl. :cry:

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by FiveFingerMnemonic » Sat May 09, 2020 5:18 am

From that cheesy church film "the testaments" when spray tanned papanwa tells his artist son during Jacob's polynesian thug's trial for the murder of the prophet:

"You must do what truth requires!"
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Hagoth » Sat May 09, 2020 7:50 am

Exiled wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 3:21 pm
For me it's "leave me alone." I get harassed by well-meaning members and family that want to reclaim the "lost." Or how about "I'm not lost, you are."
I have used this quote from the Dalai Lama: "Just because I'm not on the same path as you, doesn't mean I'm lost."
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by wtfluff » Sat May 09, 2020 9:01 am

Hagoth wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:50 am
I have used this quote from the Dalai Lama: "Just because I'm not on the same path as you, doesn't mean I'm lost."
That's one I need to remember.

Let's do this fluffy brain.

OK, my fluffy brain will probably forget, so I'm going to type it into my list of "enlightenment notes." Maybe the fluffy brain/fluffy finger combo will embed it permanently in the memory banks...
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. -Frater Ravus

Keep the company of those who seek the truth - run from those who have found it -Václav Havel

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