Sunday Morning NOMference!!

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:47 am

Reuben wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:46 am
AdmiralHoldo wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:43 am
Too bad the A**hole God that Holland is accusing other religions of believing in is THE EXACT GOD THAT WE BELIEVE IN.
Yeah, but he's our asshole.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:47 am

I don't know Holland. Don't fool yourself. Hindsight is a very different thing.

It's easy to say you hope for, or would do many things you have today or know about today. But if you were raised in the 1800s away from Mormonism, you'd likely be just as committed to your falsehoods you were raised with then as you are now.

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:47 am

He mentioned COVID +5
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:48 am

About time someone talked about covid-19. +10 for Holland on this one.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by nibbler » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:48 am

Ooo, it's getting good.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Newme » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:49 am

How often has “restoration” been said for April conference?

200?
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:49 am

+5 for mentioning health care professional +100 for mention poetry, hunger etc.
-100 for leaving out gender inequality.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:49 am

+20 for FINALLY mentioning COVID19

-100 for hoping to cure hunger, poverty, etc without touching $100+B
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:49 am

MoPag wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:49 am
+5 for mentioning health care professional +100 for mention poetry, hunger etc.
-100 for leaving out gender inequality.
Or sexual orientation.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:50 am

+200 for actually talking about the virus...and providing some hope. +100 as well for talking about hunger and poverty. +100 for talking about school violence. +100 for talking about against racial prejudice.

Ok. Holland did ok in this talk. True Kudos.

Patience and forgiveness. This is good stuff! Let's talk about a better world. Yes! Yes! Yes!

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:50 am

+10 for Love God and Love Neighbors
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Cnsl1 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:51 am

Yay, Big Jeff! +50 for talking about the elephant in the room and trying to give hope.

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:52 am

lostinmiddlemormonism wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:50 am
+200 for actually talking about the virus...and providing some hope. +100 as well for talking about hunger and poverty. +100 for talking about school violence. +100 for talking about against racial prejudice.

Ok. Holland did ok in this talk. True Kudos.

Patience and forgiveness. This is good stuff! Let's talk about a better world. Yes! Yes! Yes!
Yes. But he did miss some stuff. But you could easily add those things to a lesson/talk about this talk. He gave us some good progressive material.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:52 am

+50 for recognizing that there is a problem with religion today. Kudos Jeff!
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:52 am

+50 for recognizing today's religious short comings.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:53 am

Maybe he needs to see that his own religion isn't offering much either. Not in this day, anyway.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:53 am

I either love or hate Holland's talks. No middle ground. I was wishy washy about the beginning (he really, really doesn't understand the state of religion in early 19th century America) but this is good.

Poverty and school shootings are things that have affected my family directly. But they aren't the kind of things GA's like to talk about.

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by nibbler » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:53 am

Jeez Holland, I know a church with billions of dollars that could help with some of all that.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:55 am

nibbler wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:53 am
Jeez Holland, I know a church with billions of dollars that could help with some of all that.
:lol: :lol:
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:55 am

I like the charity to others part.

Thank you Holland. Yes, there were parts of this that could have been better, but this was the best talk of conference so far I believe.

-lost

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