Bendar Feels Attacked

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Give It Time » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:17 pm

Further thoughts on this. This absolutely cannot, cannot work on an international scale. This speech was for American audiences only.

I have a brother who lives in Singapore. He wrote to us in mid-January and told us about this new disease we've all been hearing about called Coronavirus. He told us we needed to take it seriously. He told us of staggered work ours, fewer people on public transport, people wearing masks and the schools being closed. Then he told us how church had been cancelled...into April. Remember, this email was from January. So, restricting large gatherings of people didn't just happen in the United States. It happened worldwide. And yes, LDS churches and seminaries were closed and, yes, that means the Q15 had at least that much lead time.

In light of my previous post and my recently remembering this, I think what Bednar's video is about is influencing the upcoming elections.
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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by 2bizE » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:36 pm

wtfluff wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:40 am
Now that I think about it... This is probably just Bednar's evil plan to get all the older Q15 members above him in the hierarchy to go to more meetings so all the old coots will get COVID and die, and then Bednar get's his CEO of LD$-Inc. dream-job sooner.
I was thinking the same thing...I hope not because I want Oaks to spend several years driving the church into the ground.
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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Reuben » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:17 pm

Give It Time wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:17 pm
In light of my previous post and my recently remembering this, I think what Bednar's video is about is influencing the upcoming elections.
It's very much in line with populist conservative thought. Its main points would be right at home on the Glenn Beck Program, where every infringement is intentional and possibly part of a Marxist conspiracy.

On the right, Trump has become the champion of religious liberty. (What a bizarre world we live in!) Whether Bednar meant to or not, I think you're right that it'll influence more right-leaning voters to cast a ballot for the incumbent-in-chief.
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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by moksha » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:56 am

Image

I was trying to imagine Jesus sitting here, but I kept getting interrupted by images of those enthralled to Mammon.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Cnsl1 » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:52 am

This is kinda picky, but you'd hope a world wide religious leader would be a little more cognizant of the image he presents in this picture--his wife masked up alone with him in his private office, and a plastic water bottle sitting on his desk.

If this is not intentionally political, it's political unintentionally. There is a lot being said in that photo.

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Red Ryder » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:46 am

Caption: “Susan, it says here I’m supposed to insert when extended?? What do you think that means?”

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Hagoth » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:58 am

Give It Time wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:28 pm
Holland's been in the hospital for more than a week and they don't know what he has?
The Deseret News article is very strange. It starts with three sentences that say he's sick, it's not COVID-19, nobody knows what it is. The rest of it reads like an obituary:

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/6/17 ... mormon-lds
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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by slavereeno » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:35 pm

Red Ryder wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:46 am
Caption: “Susan, it says here I’m supposed to insert when extended?? What do you think that means?”
Wait, wut? :lol:

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Mackman » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:44 pm

I find it very very disturbing that the church unofficially supports Trump !! Trump is not a good person and only cares about his reelection !!!! Bednar on the other hand is just as narcissistic as Trump !!! It's nice not going to church and having to listen to how the BP supports Trump but he will tell you you can support whomever you want that's if you dont mind outer darkness. Jesus would not have this and they make a mockery of his ministry.

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Reuben » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:13 pm

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by blazerb » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:25 pm

alas wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:31 pm
Yes, the church really needs to look at all the women who do not have a priesthood holding man in the home and realize that something important was being denied to a segment of the church and how denying that was cruel when blessing the sacrament over the phone or a dozen other ways to allow women to have access to the sacrament were so readily available. But the leaders trivialized the sacrament as far as single, widowed, or mixed faith marriages go. They really should practice what they preach.
I can't tell you, Alas, how much I appreciate this comment. Absolutely spot on.

Also, "Bendar" sounds like a superhero who should be working with Mr. Incredible. He can't stretch like Elastigirl, but he is really flexible. :D

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Give It Time » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:54 am

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:58 am
Give It Time wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:28 pm
Holland's been in the hospital for more than a week and they don't know what he has?
The Deseret News article is very strange. It starts with three sentences that say he's sick, it's not COVID-19, nobody knows what it is. The rest of it reads like an obituary:

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/6/17 ... mormon-lds

Welp. He's out of the hospital, now, and will be resuming his duties. Call me Thomas, but I'll believe it when I see it and if I do, I will be glad, because I don't wish ill on the man.
At 70 years-old, my older self would tell my younger self to use the words, "f*ck off" much more frequently. --Helen Mirren

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Random » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:36 pm

slavereeno wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:35 pm
Red Ryder wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:46 am
Caption: “Susan, it says here I’m supposed to insert when extended?? What do you think that means?”
Wait, wut? :lol:
Exactly what I was thinking. :oops:
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Hagoth » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:50 am

Give It Time wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:54 am
Call me Thomas, but I'll believe it when I see it and if I do, I will be glad, because I don't wish ill on the man.
Same here. Despite all of the wrong roads, don't you dares, and taffy pulling accusations I still have a soft spot for him. I think it's because I can't help but feel like he's giving away something about his own faith struggle when he gets outraged at doubters.
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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Not Buying It » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:12 am

Bednar's a tool, and can be reliably counted on to act like a tool in pretty much any given situation. This is a particularly poor case to make a religious freedom fuss about - several outbreaks of COVID have been traced back to large religious gatherings. If he wants to whine about his religious freedoms being attacked, using something that probably saved people's lives isn't the best way to do it. Kind of makes it seem like he doesn't care about anyone else's lives. Which he doesn't.

Religious freedom is just a way of energizing the members by making them feel threatened and persecuted. It's a technique to rally the troops and nothing more. And using it now in this context is particularly galling.
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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Not Buying It » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:19 am

Mackman wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:44 pm
I find it very very disturbing that the church unofficially supports Trump !! Trump is not a good person and only cares about his reelection !!!! Bednar on the other hand is just as narcissistic as Trump !!! It's nice not going to church and having to listen to how the BP supports Trump but he will tell you you can support whomever you want that's if you dont mind outer darkness. Jesus would not have this and they make a mockery of his ministry.
Trump is not a good person, no argument there. Some of you may support him politically, but I doubt any of you could make a compelling argument that he's a good person even if you agree with his politics.

But I wouldn't say the Church unofficially supports Trump necessarily - rather, the Church unofficially condemns Democrats, and the inference a lot of members take from that is that they therefore must support Trump. So members will twist themselves into moral pretzels to try and justify Trump's well-documented un-Church-approved behavior rather than make the slightest appearance of supporting those evil Democrats.
"The truth is elegantly simple. The lie needs complex apologia. 4 simple words: Joe made it up. It answers everything with the perfect simplicity of Occam's Razor. Every convoluted excuse withers." - Some guy on Reddit called disposazelph

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Advocate » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:48 am

moksha wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:56 am
Image

I was trying to imagine Jesus sitting here, but I kept getting interrupted by images of those enthralled to Mammon.
Why does he have so many computers and his wife has none? (using laptop, white desktop monitor, black desktop monitor)

OR

Caption: "I'm almost done reviewing your internet search history dear. Next we'll discuss your ministering efforts." :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Red Ryder » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:32 am

The white one is his celestial connection to Jesus.

Jesus ain’t making the in person trip with COVID-19 AND while the temple is under construction.

Hence the white celestial dial up.
Those who do not move do not notice their chains. —Rosa Luxemburg

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Re: Bendar Feels Attacked

Post by Give It Time » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:20 pm

Red Ryder wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:32 am
The white one is his celestial connection to Jesus.

Jesus ain’t making the in person trip with COVID-19 AND while the temple is under construction.

Hence the white celestial dial up.
Since his wife can't see that one, that one's porn. Or Mormon Tinder. Take your pick.
At 70 years-old, my older self would tell my younger self to use the words, "f*ck off" much more frequently. --Helen Mirren

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