NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by blazerb » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:33 am

How can this life be a fair test if it is so dependent on parents conditioning their children?

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:33 am

Indoctinate your kids... grrrrrr

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:33 am

-10 for not calling out Indoctrination.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by blazerb » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:34 am

-10 for saying that 8 year olds "choose" baptism.

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:36 am

My children aren't leaving the church (and religion) because they "weren't far enough in." Their generation is leaving because THE CHURCH (and organized religion) HAS NOTHING TO OFFER THEM.

Do some research, lady. Maybe pick up that book by Jana Reiss.

-10 for "the adversary" (oooh no not the boogie man under the bed)

-10 for encouraging scrupulosity

The hell with it, I'm gonna go fold laundry. Do you know how bad a talk has to be for me to see laundry as the better alternative?

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by blazerb » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:36 am

Children have to be told what and why they believe? How about a discussion of epistemology.

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:37 am

Role playing? Good God.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:38 am

Dammit! For a split second I thought she was going to give a groundbreaking talk about the horrors of child abuse. Ummm...but no.

At least it's her and not Craven
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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:38 am

Mormorrisey wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:37 am
Role playing? Good God.
"What to do if someone offers you coffee or porn."

What kind of f*cked up religion sees coffee as the moral equivalent of SHOWING PORNOGRAPHY TO CHILDREN.
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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 am

I’m more concerned about my kids not being racists homophobic mysogynistic bigots rather than if they have a glass of wine or not.

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 am

-100 for not far enough in.
We see things not as they are, but as we are ourselves. - H.M. Tomlinson

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 am

Drill instructors? This can't be what she's suggesting for good parenting. -50.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 am

This is a pretty intense story to tell primary kids. damn.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 am

AdmiralHoldo wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:36 am
My children aren't leaving the church (and religion) because they "weren't far enough in." Their generation is leaving because THE CHURCH (and organized religion) HAS NOTHING TO OFFER THEM.
This.
We see things not as they are, but as we are ourselves. - H.M. Tomlinson

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:40 am

This talk sucks.

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:40 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 am
-100 for not far enough in.
Oh this is a train wreck!
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by jfro18 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:40 am

It sounds like this talk is going to put more pressure on DW, who is already wanting our 8 year old to be 'more in' with the church.

Sigh.

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:40 am

I'm feeling stressed just listening to this drivel.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:41 am

Mormorrisey wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 am
Drill instructors? This can't be what she's suggesting for good parenting. -50.
More battle/war language to preach the gospel (aka good news).
We see things not as they are, but as we are ourselves. - H.M. Tomlinson

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Re: NOMference Sat Morning Sp 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:42 am

Hmmm forcing someone to do what you want? I don't think it was the Lord who suggested that plan.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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