NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:47 pm

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:46 pm
Bracing for when he says the unfairness of when an election is stolen. 8-) 8-)
:lol: :lol:

This talk is really uneasy tho...
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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by alas » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:48 pm

MoPag wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:43 pm
Cnsl1 wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:42 pm
+15 for Bacon Backdrop
:lol: :lol:
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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:48 pm

Actually unsure how to feel about this talk. On the one hand, he recognises that life is unfair for people and covid has been really bad for the marginalised. On the other hand, just saying Jesus will help you out is not quite a solution.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Cnsl1 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:49 pm

+10 for Jesus fixes unfairness
-100 for the Church of Jesus sitting on $100+ billion and making more money during a pandemic

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:51 pm

I might actually give him a plus 5 for mentioning the just mercy guy. What a great film.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Reuben » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:53 pm

Cnsl1 wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:49 pm
+10 for Jesus fixes unfairness
-100 for the Church of Jesus sitting on $100+ billion and making more money during a pandemic
Well, you know, he'll fix unfairness later.

Anything the church could do something about is something Jesus will fix later. Just gotta have that convenient eternal perspective. Viva la afterlife!
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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:53 pm

Mormorrisey wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:48 pm
Actually unsure how to feel about this talk. On the one hand, he recognises that life is unfair for people and covid has been really bad for the marginalised. On the other hand, just saying Jesus will help you out is not quite a solution.
It's what a person in power says to prevent the unprivileged from staging a revolt. Jesus will give you a reward and punish the people in power in the next life. Jesus fixes all your problems so don't rock the boat, be obedient, and don't press for change.
We see things not as they are, but as we are ourselves. - H.M. Tomlinson

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Red Ryder » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:53 pm

Did I miss anything?
Those who do not move do not notice their chains. —Rosa Luxemburg

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:54 pm

Wow... this in cringy....
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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:54 pm

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:53 pm
Mormorrisey wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:48 pm
Actually unsure how to feel about this talk. On the one hand, he recognises that life is unfair for people and covid has been really bad for the marginalised. On the other hand, just saying Jesus will help you out is not quite a solution.
It's what a person in power says to prevent the unprivileged from staging a revolt. Jesus will give you a reward and punish the people in power in the next life. Jesus fixes all your problems so don't rock the boat, be obedient, and don't press for change.
Aaaand....that's it.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:55 pm

Red Ryder wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:53 pm
Did I miss anything?
Um, no?
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by alas » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:55 pm

Mormorrisey wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:48 pm
Actually unsure how to feel about this talk. On the one hand, he recognises that life is unfair for people and covid has been really bad for the marginalised. On the other hand, just saying Jesus will help you out is not quite a solution.
I am also not sure about this talk. It is good to say that Christ will fix all unfairness. If you can see this as part of the atonement, it is good. But just saying it isn’t enough. We humans need to be actively involved in undoing the damage of unfairness and not leave it to Jesus. Make sure this isn’t just “thoughts and prayers” and not doing a thing yourself to fix things.

+ or - 10

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:56 pm

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:53 pm
Mormorrisey wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:48 pm
Actually unsure how to feel about this talk. On the one hand, he recognises that life is unfair for people and covid has been really bad for the marginalised. On the other hand, just saying Jesus will help you out is not quite a solution.
It's what a person in power says to prevent the unprivileged from staging a revolt. Jesus will give you a reward and punish the people in power in the next life. Jesus fixes all your problems so don't rock the boat, be obedient, and don't press for change.
100% ^^^
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by alas » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:58 pm

MoPag wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:56 pm
nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:53 pm
Mormorrisey wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:48 pm
Actually unsure how to feel about this talk. On the one hand, he recognises that life is unfair for people and covid has been really bad for the marginalised. On the other hand, just saying Jesus will help you out is not quite a solution.
It's what a person in power says to prevent the unprivileged from staging a revolt. Jesus will give you a reward and punish the people in power in the next life. Jesus fixes all your problems so don't rock the boat, be obedient, and don't press for change.
100% ^^^
Yes. This kind of preaching was used to keep the slaves patient with slavery.

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Cnsl1 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:59 pm

+10 for not throwing stones
+20 for catching stones

-30 for insinuating unfairness is fixed by church myopic Jesus glasses and glossing over the story where the man needed financial help and appealed to his church congregation. We get that this wasn't out church, but... We understand he's gonna have a better chance at another church.

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:00 pm

Anderson
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:01 pm

God, Anderson. This session is definitely going downhill fast.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Cnsl1 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:02 pm

+5 to Anderson for not saying "Beloved" before RMN

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:03 pm

I am absolutely shocked that Brown noser Anderson is the one who neglected to put beloved in front of Nelson's name.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Sat afternoon SP 2021

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:04 pm

Dude...don't patronize us....
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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