Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!

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Re: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!

Post by LSOF » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm

I got a perfect score. Lazy learning pays off.
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Re: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!

Post by DPRoberts » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm

Thoughtful wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:15 am
I believe "lazy learner" is a phrase for an artificial intelligence algorithm. If I understand it correctly, the algorithm requires experience trials to develop. Modification of the learner is through experience only. In a eager learner algorithm, there are programmed assumptions. So the lazy learner can only function with assumptions created through trial based learning but the eager learner accepts formulaic assumptions given by the programmer. The LL learns more slowly, but is more likely to be accurate in its adaptation to its environment. The EL is only as accurate as its programs.

So, RMN might be on to something?
I like this. When I was young I was more of the EL and accepted formulaic assumptions given by my religious programmers. It was through trial based learning that I progressed beyond my early programming and found better algorithms for adapting to life. So this is kind of like a more modern metaphor to describe stages of faith. Maybe if Fowler had come along late enough to have skills across more disciplines the move from three to later stages could be described this way.
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Re: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!

Post by blazerb » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:23 am

Thoughtful wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:15 am
I believe "lazy learner" is a phrase for an artificial intelligence algorithm. If I understand it correctly, the algorithm requires experience trials to develop. Modification of the learner is through experience only. In a eager learner algorithm, there are programmed assumptions. So the lazy learner can only function with assumptions created through trial based learning but the eager learner accepts formulaic assumptions given by the programmer. The LL learns more slowly, but is more likely to be accurate in its adaptation to its environment. The EL is only as accurate as its programs.

So, RMN might be on to something?
This is an interesting twist on RMN's words.

The current leadership is executing a scorched earth strategy in maintaining membership. As Reuben pointed out in the conference thread, the audience for the "lazy learners" comment was not us. It was intended for the currently active membership. It allows them to feel superior as they refuse to read or listen to anything that might threaten their worldview. Of course, family relationships will be more difficult. Friendships will be damaged. Lives will be ruined (a little reverse TSM). The current leadership does not care as long as they can get the current members more committed to spending time and resources on church activity and less aware of the problems behind the church's claims.

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