NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by moksha » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:32 pm

I can relate to "torturous sleepless nights". Addressing those in pain is a great recognition.
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by SincereInquirer » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:36 pm

moksha wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:32 pm
I can relate to "torturous sleepless nights".
I'm sorry to hear that Senor Penguin...I read you here and on a few other boards. I have to say thank you for all of the comments you share at all hours, as they seem to always find a way to keep me smiling. Best wishes to you.
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:37 pm

moksha wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:32 pm
I can relate to "torturous sleepless nights".
(((Hugs!!)))
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:38 pm

If all we have to offer to people who are suffering is "don't worry, everything will be better when you're dead" then we have NOTHING TO OFFER PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING.

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by blazerb » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:40 pm

AdmiralHoldo wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:38 pm
If all we have to offer to people who are suffering is "don't worry, everything will be better when you're dead" then we have NOTHING TO OFFER PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING.
Amen!

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:40 pm

moksha wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:32 pm
I can relate to "torturous sleepless nights".
Oh man, I feel you. The medication I take for my insomnia literally also prevents me from sleeping (I wish I was kidding). Also, my husband has a CPAP and still snores. It feels like a sick joke at this point.

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:42 pm

Dunn
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:43 pm

+5 for "daughters and sons"

I'm really interested in this story from a data point of view (I'm a math teacher with a background in science). I'll have to go down the rabbit hole later.
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by blazerb » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:44 pm

Probably the cyclists just needed to start doping.

Sorry, I'll be less cynical tomorrow.

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by moksha » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:44 pm

Thanks, everyone.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:45 pm

Five pages a day is still WAY too much Book of Mormon.

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:45 pm

I hope he suggests just paying 1% of tithing :lol:
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by w2mz » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:46 pm

Why does god want or need us to suffer at all? I don’t find it necessary to make my kids needlessly suffer. If that’s how god rolls, then I do t want to be like him or want to ever be with him again. Makes sense for me once I came to the conclusion that religion is all made up. Like John Larsen said, the church takes away what is good about you, including your strength to over come challenges, and then sells them back to you in a Jesus/church wrapper.
The church has engineered your eternal family into a commodity that can be purchased with an annual fee. The fact that full tithing payment is a requirement for saving ordinances is the biggest red flag imaginable. Hagoth

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by moksha » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:48 pm

He should have used the daily incremental gain of the Ensign Investment Fund as an example.
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:49 pm

Ummm let's get help from mental healthcare professionals INSTEAD of bishops.
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:52 pm

Douglas
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by SincereInquirer » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:52 pm

Has the quoting of the current living profit gotten worse since Rusty has been the profit? Everyone seems to be kissing his a$$. Was it this bad when Gordy or Tommy were the profit?
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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:54 pm

"...when it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year..."

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:54 pm

w2mz wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:46 pm
Why does god want or need us to suffer at all? I don’t find it necessary to make my kids needlessly suffer. If that’s how god rolls, then I do t want to be like him or want to ever be with him again. Makes sense for me once I came to the conclusion that religion is all made up. Like John Larsen said, the church takes away what is good about you, including your strength to over come challenges, and then sells them back to you in a Jesus/church wrapper.
This is so true. The church does nothing to empower it's members. In fact they do the opposite.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:55 pm

SincereInquirer wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:52 pm
Has the quoting of the current living profit gotten worse since Rusty has been the profit? Everyone seems to be kissing his a$$. Was it this bad when Gordy or Tommy were the profit?
yes. it is horrible. The Church of Rusty Nelson of Latter-day Saints.

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