Dulce et Decorum est

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lostinmiddlemormonism
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Dulce et Decorum est

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:52 am

Dulce et Decorum est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.

Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame, all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.—

Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams before my helpless sight
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin,

If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, Bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,–

My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori
-Wilfred Owen

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Re: Dulce et Decorum est

Post by stuck » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:40 pm

That is a stark poem befitting the day!

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Re: Dulce et Decorum est

Post by Palerider » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:30 am

Heaping glory on those who suffered unspeakable pain unnecessarily by way of sheer arrogance and incompetence of their leaders, is the only way that cowards who are far removed from that pain, can mitigate their own approval of continuing the insanity.

To tell the truth would be an act of courage that is beyond them.
"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily."

"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."

George Washington

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Re: Dulce et Decorum est

Post by Not Buying It » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:28 am

I've always loved Dulce et Deocrum est - check out the Zombie's "Butcher's Tale (Western Front 1914)" for a similar viewpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqr7ohMkuQA.

Palerider wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:30 am
Heaping glory on those who suffered unspeakable pain unnecessarily by way of sheer arrogance and incompetence of their leaders, is the only way that cowards who are far removed from that pain, can mitigate their own approval of continuing the insanity.

To tell the truth would be an act of courage that is beyond them.
Well said. More people should familiarize themselves with "War is a Racket" by United States Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler: https://www.fadedpage.com/books/20160538/html.php
"The truth is elegantly simple. The lie needs complex apologia. 4 simple words: Joe made it up. It answers everything with the perfect simplicity of Occam's Razor. Every convoluted excuse withers." - Some guy on Reddit called disposazelph

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