NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by blazerb » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:55 am

This talk seems designed to allow many different interpretations.

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:55 am

my maple cinnamon latte is wearing off... :|
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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:55 am

So let me get this straight - in a talk about following the prophet, Renlund's main evidentiary point is a time a prophet was wrong about something? -10 more for really bad logic.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:56 am

I reserved my score until the end...-25 for oh so many reasons!

Most significantly "Listen to us...we are PSR's damn it!"

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:59 am

Pino
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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:01 am

+2 for accent
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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:02 am

+10 for promoting cultural competency
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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:07 am

I'm a little more neutral on this idea of culture vs the church - it can be weaponized to throw out cultural traditions that interfere with old white dude Mormon culture. So I'll keep it zero.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:09 am

Montoya
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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by blazerb » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:09 am

His neighbor called him "Elder Montoya"?

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by blazerb » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:10 am

His neighbor is probably a member and trained in what to call him.

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:11 am

blazerb wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:09 am
His neighbor called him "Elder Montoya"?
"Hello. My name is Elder Montoya. You killed my father... Prepare to die!!!!"
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by blazerb » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:12 am

MoPag wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:11 am
blazerb wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:09 am
His neighbor called him "Elder Montoya"?
"Hello. My name is Elder Montoya. You killed my father... Prepare to die!!!!"
:lol:

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by blazerb » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:16 am

For consistency, +2 for the accent. I do wish that speakers could still talk in their native languages, though.

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:23 am

Rasband
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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:24 am

Shallow thoughts by Ras Bandy.
-Nibbler
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by blazerb » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:26 am

-20 for buttering up Holland and Cook.

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by MoPag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:26 am

Just imagine him saying everything in Kevin from the Office's voice. It's super funny. :lol:
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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by Angel » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:28 am

Put yourself in the shoes of a little child, whose prayers were never answered, who was left abused year after year after year by her "high priest" father, listening to these talks.
God does not answer prayers. (how should they interpret silence?)
God does not bless children.
The church does not help anyone see clearly, or guide, or help.

For the privileged it works.
For those, who through no fault of their own, are in war-torn countries, are starving, live with abuse, have to deal with any real "trials" these talks are BS. rubbing vinegar on wounds, condemning innocents, show complete detachment from the reality of most people on this planet.

My heart hurts for all watching who are not receiving the guidance they need through this grooming/sickening/parade of wolves in sheep clothing.
“You have learned something...That always feels at first as if you have lost something.” George Bernard Shaw
When it is dark enough, you can see the stars. ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Re: NOMference Saturday morning Fall 2022

Post by blazerb » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:28 am

MoPag wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:26 am
Just imagine him saying everything in Kevin from the Office's voice. It's super funny. :lol:
I am imagining him trying to scoop chile from the floor.

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