NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:12 am

Wow I didn't realize he was so sick....
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by jfro18 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:15 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:06 am
Did I miss any announcement about the 2023 membership statistics? I know they don't read those over the pulpit because there's no time to waste during conference ( :roll: ) but I didn't hear anyone directing people to a website.

The membership statistics are the most interesting thing about the whole of April general conferences.
IIRC they publish them on the website like an hour or so after they do the audit/etc at GenCon.

Could be wrong, but I think there's always a bit of a delay before the more detailed numbers go up.

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:16 am

This is actually a sweet talk. +5
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:20 am

You can tell his energy level is very low....

His voice even sounds tired.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:20 am

I only half heard it, but it was disappointing to hear something along the lines of being able to be with his wife in the next life, "if I prove myself worthy."

It's a sad way to live and that belief can be toxic. Lots of members (and Christians in general) carry tonnes of anxiety over their status before god.

What loving god would block two people that love each other from being together? That's like a minimal thing someone could do for someone else. Just let people that love each other alone so they can be together. What god would prevent that? Regardless of a person's "worthiness."

The if worthy then blessings mindset is toxic to the soul.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:21 am

jfro18 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:15 am
IIRC they publish them on the website like an hour or so after they do the audit/etc at GenCon.

Could be wrong, but I think there's always a bit of a delay before the more detailed numbers go up.
I thought they usually had someone, possibly the person conducting the meeting, mention that the stats will be posted on the website. I could be misremembering that bit.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:22 am

Dennis

This was the lady that caused the Instagram firestorm a few weeks ago...
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:24 am

I'm not sure "smiling while you child is struggling" is really the message we should be going for right now... -5
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:25 am

A talk about covenants in primary voice.

Starting to rethink listening to conf.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:26 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:25 am
A talk about covenants in primary voice.

Starting to rethink listening to conf.
Her voice is less grating than it was at the RS devotional though... Tender mercies? :roll: :lol:
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:28 am

MoPag wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:26 am
Her voice is less grating than it was at the RS devotional though...
Seriously? Yikes.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by Jeffret » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:28 am

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... sus-christ

Looks like a decent number of converts
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:29 am

The garment police talk. Or maybe just the first.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:30 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:28 am
MoPag wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:26 am
Her voice is less grating than it was at the RS devotional though...
Seriously? Yikes.
It was bad. And I only heard it when I watched the Mormon stories about the drama around what she said. But just those few minutes were sooo cringe....
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:33 am

I like how she's talking about Hebrew words. I always think that is interesting. Also, she's speaking about why she wears her garments. I mean I was expecting her to be more preachy and condescending, but this isn't as bad as it could be, I guess.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:34 am

Dushku
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:42 am

Extubating you self is a really bad thing...
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:45 am

The talks that obsess over making testimonies stronger just don't do it for me. Testimony of what? How strong is strong enough? What does a strong testimony even mean?

He also talked about being worthy to continue to see more rays of light. It feels scrupulosity inducing. In Mormonism enough is never enough. Things have always got to be stronger than they are. It crowds out the happiness that can be enjoyed with what one already has.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:46 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:45 am
The talks that obsess over making testimonies stronger just don't do it for me. Testimony of what? How strong is strong enough? What does a strong testimony even mean?

He also talked about being worthy to continue to see more rays of light. It feels scrupulosity inducing. In Mormonism enough is never enough. Things have always got to be stronger than they are. It crowds out the happiness that can be enjoyed with what one already has.
Very good point!
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:48 am

Soares
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