Russell's Death Spiral

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Russell's Death Spiral

Post by Hagoth » Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:47 am

Y'all know Nelson's story about the flaming death spiral he survived on a flight to St. George. I decided to look up the FAA report on this terrifying calamity and found it, of all places, on FAIR:

"The FAA’s summary of the incident involving President Nelson’s plane reads:

Second incident occurred Nov. 11, 1976 involving Piper PA 31 N74985. Pilot experienced rough engine on scheduled flight between Salt Lake City and St. George. 3 passengers on board. Engine was feathered and precautionary landing made at Delta, Utah, per instructions in company manual. Investigation revealed cylinder base studs sheered. As result of occurrence Sky West changed maintenance procedures by checking torque studs at each 100 hour inspection. No damage to aircraft. No injuries to crew or passengers (Dockets 27907, 27908, Hughes Airwest, Deletion—order 77-4-50 adopted April 11, 1977; included in Civil Aeronautics Board, Economic Decisions of the Civil Aeronautics Board, Volume 73 (1977), 1090; cf. 1087–1090).

The stuff of nightmares!

FAIR then goes on to imagine that there probably really was a fire and a death spiral, but that it just didn't get mentioned in the report. They do not address Nelson's claim that they were forced to make a crash landing in a farmer's field, which the report clearly shows to be a lie.
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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by moksha » Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:32 pm

Hagoth wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:47 am
Y'all know Nelson's story about the flaming death spiral he survived on a flight to St. George. I decided to look up the FAA report on this terrifying calamity and found it, of all places, on FAIR:
Didn't this happen right after Paul H. Dunn played right base for the San Diego Chargers when he got back from leading the charge on Iwo Jima?

At Discuss Mormonism, they found several other whoppers that President Nelson told.
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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by 2bizE » Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:30 am

The report also must have failed to mention the cleaning of bodily fluids/solids from three seats in the main cabin.
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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by Just This Guy » Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:27 am

Radio Free Mormon has covered several of RMN's fish stories that fall apart when you look into them. It looks like accurate memory isn't one if RMN's gifts.
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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by 2bizE » Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:20 pm

For those who haven’t seen this, but here is the Mormonism live video where Bill and RFM talk about this spiral death dive.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fz4iQk1M9 ... cGxhbmU%3D
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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by moksha » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:59 am

moksha wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:32 pm
At Discuss Mormonism, they found several other whoppers that President Nelson told.
https://discussmormonism.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=709

The proof against the Death Spiral Tall Tales shows up on page 74. The Civil Aviation records recorded this non-emergency landing. It happened at the Delta Aiport (created in 1943) instead of Nelson's reported farmer's field.
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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by Zeezrom » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:13 am

Doesn’t (pardon the pun) Trump’s miraculous survival trump Rusty’s???
I mean here we have a guy who’s never used olive oil except perhaps in various sex acts being “saved by God” in a way that’s there’s verifiable proof of a “miracle”. We have still shots and footage actually showing a bullet flying through the air as Trump suddenly turns his head.
If there were such things as miracles then that certainly beats anything TSCC can prove happening to protect its hallowed leaders.

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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by Hagoth » Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:55 am

I've been travelling and haven't been following NOM. Yesterday when I finally sat down to take a look I saw this thread, not realizing that it was one I started and thought it was going to be about Nelson's current medical condition.
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Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Post by moksha » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:41 pm

Hagoth wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:55 am
I've been travelling and haven't been following NOM. Yesterday when I finally sat down to take a look I saw this thread, not realizing that it was one I started and thought it was going to be about Nelson's current medical condition.
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