Paris Temple much more influencial than Palace of Versailles

[Korihor]

http://www.ldsliving.com/The-Paris-Fran ... on/s/85433

The Paris France Temple is the first in France and 156th worldwide for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Within walking distance of the entrance to the gardens of the Versailles Palace — the Sun King’s royal chateau — the temple stands in a prominent, “royal location,” said LDS Church Presiding Bishop Gérald Caussé.

“The temple is only a few hundred yards from the remarkable Chateau of Versailles, which was transformed by King Louis XIV and his family into an extravagant complex, complete with French and English gardens,” said Elder Neil L. Andersen of the LDS Church’s Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who also participated in the dedication. “While the chateau is impressive, its influence dissipated with the death of the Sun King and those who followed him.”

In contrast, the Paris Temple will have a worldwide, eternal impact, especially among French-speaking populations, President Eyring said. “It will be powerful. It will lead to other temples.”

I just can't. The ignorance, insensitivity and plain idiotic statements of Eyring are astounding.

I'm willing to bet everything I have the Palace of Versailles will stand the test of time for it's first 300 years better than the LDS Paris Temple.

[Silver Girl]

Good grief! How incredibly arrogant and condescending to a nation that, I assume, agreed to allow that building to be constructed. I hate to think of the cost of that site - i had no idea it was so close to that (genuine) landmark. What kind of crap is the phrase about a "worldwide impact" - what a crock! How the hell do they expect ANY temple to have impact when they're not even open to many members of the church, much less to a "worldwide" population. I call BS on that.

The site alone would likely have paid for many decades of professional cleaning of every single chapel bathroom in the church...

[Dravin]

Good grief! How incredibly arrogant and condescending to a nation that, I assume, agreed to allow that building to be constructed.

It's not just arrogant and condescending it's downright delusional. The chateau and gardens of Versailles have over 7 million visitors each year*. Pretty impressive for a building whose influence has supposedly faded.

*Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/30/travel/mo ... es-palaces

[moksha]

This will be a Temple fit for the Sun King, and with bathrooms!


It looks fairly Celestial

[oliver_denom]

I wouldn't be so confident if I were them. The French have five seasons: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, and Revolution. Having an American religion build a palace next to Versailles might possibly be seen as a poke in the nationalist eye.

I found some French coverage of the dedication. Does the word "cult" carry a connotation French?

http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/dans-les- ... 471_23.php

If you have Chrome, then it will translate to English.

[ulmite]

"culte" in French has no connotation, "secte" is the word for cult in the modern sense of the term.
"culte" can be roughly translated as rite or worship. As an example, mormons in Frane call the chapel the "salle de culte", literally "room of worship".

Also, neither of those quotes from the OP were pronounced during the first session of the dedication, and I don't count Caussé's adjective as a quote because everyone in France knows that the whole town of Versailles is royal.

Elder Andersen might be correct in assuming that the LDS church's influence in France will not dissipate. After all, you have to have some influence to have it dissipate.

[Hagoth]

“It will be powerful. It will lead to other temples.”

He is aware that they're shutting down 800 units in Europe, isn't he? My question is how many temples are we going to be subsidizing for the church to maintain the illusion that they are filling the earth. The temples in Rome and Paris must be the most expensive ever built.

[1smartdodog]

It seems funny now how the members think the world revolves around the church.

[Not Buying It]

It seems funny now how the members think the world revolves around the church.

Yep. It is the way of the Church to grossly overexaggerate its own importance in the world we live in. For all its overblown self-aggrandizement, it could disappear tomorrow and 99% of the world's population wouldn't bat an eye. And for all its bluster about its importance to the next life, I am literally betting my eternal salvation it will have no influence whatsoever on what happens to me and my family when we die. And I have no fear whatsoever of the odds of that bet.

[Tangent]

Yeah talk about the church thinking the world revolves around it...my favorite lately is the claim that the internet was invented to propagate the gospel and accelerate family history work. Whew what a relief to know that! I always wondered what good the internet could be...

[nibbler]

It's not just arrogant and condescending it's downright delusional. The chateau and gardens of Versailles have over 7 million visitors each year*. Pretty impressive for a building whose influence has supposedly faded.

*Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/30/travel/mo ... es-palaces

Wow. Now we know why the church shelled out the dough to build the temple there. Exposure.

What's the edifice equivalent of a 12 year old having more power in their pinky than the pope? The Paris temple has more power in their dumpster out back than the entire palace of Versailles.

[Leukarktos]

Much closer to the LDS temple than the Palace of Versailles--next door, in fact--is a building that contains an insurance agency, a bed store, and a paint store. A royal location, indeed!

[2bizE]

Maybe the church hopes as the temple grows in importance, they draw some visitors from the palace and charge them an entrance fee of only 10%.

[Newme]

Good grief! How incredibly arrogant and condescending to a nation that, I assume, agreed to allow that building to be constructed. I hate to think of the cost of that site - i had no idea it was so close to that (genuine) landmark. What kind of crap is the phrase about a "worldwide impact" - what a crock! How the hell do they expect ANY temple to have impact when they're not even open to many members of the church, much less to a "worldwide" population. I call BS on that.

Good point. It really is ironic that a church who is supposedly all about family & Christ, splits up families and charge$$$$ for worthiness.
Temples, as beautiful as they are, remind me of an extensive manipulative and hurtful scam.
I hope the French see this for what it is, and don't get sucked into bankruptcies like so many members have.

The site alone would likely have paid for many decades of professional cleaning of every single chapel bathroom in the church...

Yes, and it'd be nice if the church of Jesus Christ actually did what Jesus asked - give to the poor.
Heck, even the basic (lower law) of Moses said that at least 1/3 of TITHES (not extras but actual tithing) is supposed to go to the poor.
Although finances are kept dark and secret, Oaks admitted not a penny goes to the poor - that members have to pay extra.
According to the WHO, almost 1 billion (1/7th) of the world's population are "chronically hungry."
In my view, the church in how finances are handled, is robbing from the poor and contributing to suffering and deaths.

[oliver_denom]

Someone else appears to have similar ideas in France.

https://apnews.com/c01121dbfc6740969cd0 ... _medium=AP

[PalmSprings]

Good grief! How incredibly arrogant and condescending to a nation that, I assume, agreed to allow that building to be constructed. I hate to think of the cost of that site - i had no idea it was so close to that (genuine) landmark. What kind of crap is the phrase about a "worldwide impact" - what a crock! How the hell do they expect ANY temple to have impact when they're not even open to many members of the church, much less to a "worldwide" population. I call BS on that.

The site alone would likely have paid for many decades of professional cleaning of every single chapel bathroom in the church...

This is spot on! There are meetinghouses that are falling apart and aren't maintained well enough to be on Baltic Ave. And not to mention the church members who are living in poverty and they are constructing a Temple on some of the worlds prime real estate??? To top it off the inference that a measly constructed temple comes even close to being on the same level of Versailles is just ignorance at its best.