Is there any reasonable/plausible evidence for reformed Egyptian?

[jfro18]

I know the answer to this is no.. but I was sent this by a reader today that he claims 'proves' that reformed Egyptian was used and fits in the Meso theories (which seems odd since the plates were supposedly written before they got to Mesoamerica, but what do I know?).

The link is here: http://www.supportingevidences.net/refo ... nd-hebrew/





I assume that those artifacts with matching symbols are either hoaxes or have been disproven since they aren't being trumpeted by the church... I just hadn't seen them before.

Beyond that, is there ANY reason to think it's not a completely made up thing? I've watched some Vogel videos where they show how many of the characters are from the English alphabet or his treasure digging parchments so I'm guessing the answer is no, but I was just curious.

[Palerider]

As far as replying to your friend, I would start with this apparently Mormon site that reviews archeological claims regarding Mormonism.

http://www.bmaf.org/articles/review_ain ... __andersen

"I do not agree, however, that he “provides compelling evidence for the location of the cities of Bountiful, Zarahemla, and Moroni,” and Lehi. I think it is, at least, disingenuous, when he continues to push documents as authentic that have been determined to not be authentic, without further testing to prove or disprove the authenticity of said documents.

Ainsworth proposes the authenticity of 12 small gold plates, known as the Padilla Gold Plates, “found” by Dr. Padilla in late 1950’s in Mexico. Ainsworth apparently agrees with Jose Davila that “Jose knew the value of the five gold plates—which he believed to be authentic--to the Book of Mormon. His stated goal was to present them to the LDS church as evidence for that book (page 19)”. Ainsworth believes these plates contain Reformed Egyptian characters of ancient origin (page 268). All twelve of these gold plates have been examined by competent qualified specialists and determined not to be authentic as claimed. "

[jfro18]

Thanks!

I figured that this is not reasonable since it is not parroted by apologists that I've seen, but it was new to me.

I do love that people claim reformed Egyptian makes sense because it lines up with the timing of certain languages, yet ignore that the caractors match almost perfectly with the English language. But rational thought is irrelevant so whatever I guess.

[Palerider]

Without delving into it more deeply, "demotic Egyptian" seems to be the only thing that comes close to answering a description of "reformed Egyptian".

It (reformed Egyptian) is just so low on my plausiblity scale that I just don't think it's even worth studying for purposes of refutation.

Here is where the apologists would call me stupid and lazy. They want you to spend days and weeks....even years going down every nonsensical rabbit hole before coming to the conclusion that it's all a fraud. There are plenty of other issues that sealed that deal for me long before "reformed Egyptian" came along.

[jfro18]

Here is where the apologists would call me stupid and lazy. They want you to spend days and weeks....even years going down every nonsensical rabbit hole before coming to the conclusion that it's all a fraud. There are plenty of other issues that sealed that deal for me long before "reformed Egyptian" came along.

Agree 100% - I wouldn't even put 'reformed Egyptian' on my top 20 list because it's really a sideshow to the obvious problems of Deutero-Isaiah, DNA/Lamanites, and Book of Abraham... those three alone kill any chance the church is true, and everything else just falls into place soon after you realize it.

[Hermey]

Joseph "discovering" ancient writings....