Second wife - Oaks

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Second wife - Oaks

Post by no1saint » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:51 am

When was the last time polygamous sealings were discussed openly in GC?

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Post by Random » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:37 pm

I remember an apostle talking about "my eternal companion" and he was referring to his second wife (I think it was Oaks), but other than that, I don't recall anything.
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Post by wtfluff » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:11 pm

Didn't Nelson brag about his two celestial brides at some point in the recent past?

I'm not sure it was in GC...

I also remember an article or something where they showed that he has portraits of both of them in his office "at work."
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Post by græy » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:57 pm

I wouldn't go as far as saying it was "discussed." Maybe briefly mentioned. But there was no in depth discussion, or meaningful clarifications. Just more, "don't worry about it, it will work out." and "Just trust us!"
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Post by Anon70 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:47 pm

He was 0/2 today or as NOM would score him -200,000. I don’t understand why this is the only topic he can speak on. He’s awful.

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Post by Yobispo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:02 am

That joke he used was unkind, detached, and cruel. My wife and I tease each other all the time, but plural marriage on the other side was always on the "we don't joke about this" list. She was livid when she heard about it and we've been out for 3 years now. She tells me that every woman she knows in the church dreads this theological inevitability and many are haunted by it. Oaks, an actual polygamist, thought it was a good opening joke.

I wonder if Carol Lynn Pearson has anything to say about it... oh yeah, she wrote a book about it. Was he taking a shot at CLP?

Reminds me of a politician who doesn't know how much a gallon of milk costs. This jerk doesn't know (or doesn't care) how much that joke hurt many women.

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Post by Not Buying It » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:14 am

I have to say, though, I am a little uncomfortable when disaffected members make a big deal out of Elder Oaks and Elder Nelson being "spiritual polygamists". The Church's doctrine on polygamy in the next life is absolutely abhorrent, don't get me wrong. Yet - if there is an afterlife, most of us will want to be with our spouse. However death and remarriage is common enough that if there is an afterlife, it's something a lot of people will have to sort out. Which spouse will I be with? One? Both? Neither? Yeah, the Church is disgusting with the whole one-sided polyamory and undercurrent of male ownership of women in the next life, but at the same time, in some ways aren't Elders Nelson and Oaks grappling with an issue many may one day grapple with, only doing so within their confines of their religion's admittedly disgusting doctrine on the subject?

Of course, they are both a couple of pigs when it comes to women, don't think I am defending them, I'm not. I'm just saying it's as issue all those who believe in an afterlife who remarry have to confront, and Mormons may not be the only people walking around who are "spiritual polygamists".
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Re: Second wife - Oaks

Post by 2bizE » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:57 am

I think Spiritual Wifery should be a 5th Sunday lesson.
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