This is how lame apologetics can get

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This is how lame apologetics can get

Post by Hagoth » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:39 am

https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/ ... noahs-name

This article from Book of Mormon Central reveals another amazing detail of ancient Hebrew that Joseph Smith could have only known through revelation.

The name Noah in the Old Testament means "rest" in Hebrew. The BoM turns this into a pun because King Noah made his people work harder, rather than giving them rest as his name implies. At the same time, and this is supposedly also a pun, he built breastworks in his court for his priests "that they might rest their bodies and their arms upon."

Two observations:

First, to suggest that Joseph Smith intentionally used this pun in the BoM would mean that Joseph made up the King Noah character!

Second, if you do a Google search for interior breastwork, one of the prime examples are the breastworks provided for the priesthood leaders in the Kirtland temple, so they can provide rest in exactly the same way as King Noah's priests. Incidentally, this is the same breastwork upon which Jesus appeared in a crowded temple but no one else realized it because he was behind a curtain (as he probably will be for the 2020 April conference).
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Re: This is how lame apologetics can get

Post by Palerider » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:21 pm

Hagoth wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:39 am

Second, if you do a Google search for interior breastwork, one of the prime examples are the breastworks provided for the priesthood leaders in the Kirtland temple, so they can provide rest in exactly the same way as King Noah's priests.
Excellent point. If it's evil for Noah and his buddies, it's evil for Joseph and his.

This poor Bowen chap has more stretch in him than Elastigirl and is every bit as "incredible". You have to want it SO badly to go this far. Plus the research and effort involved matters to no one except a few sad and misguided pawns wearing rose colored glasses.
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Re: This is how lame apologetics can get

Post by blazerb » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:35 am

Palerider wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:21 pm
Hagoth wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:39 am

Second, if you do a Google search for interior breastwork, one of the prime examples are the breastworks provided for the priesthood leaders in the Kirtland temple, so they can provide rest in exactly the same way as King Noah's priests.
Excellent point. If it's evil for Noah and his buddies, it's evil for Joseph and his.
You just need to look at it correctly. Breastworks for Noah: bad. Breastworks for JS: good. Paid clergy among the Nephites: bad. Paid clergy among the LDS: good. Polygamy among the Nephites: bad. Polygamy for JS: good. It's easy.

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Re: This is how lame apologetics can get

Post by Hagoth » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:55 am

blazerb wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:35 am
You just need to look at it correctly. Breastworks for Noah: bad. Breastworks for JS: good. Paid clergy among the Nephites: bad. Paid clergy among the LDS: good. Polygamy among the Nephites: bad. Polygamy for JS: good. It's easy.
Oh, I see the problem now. It's this damn brain that keeps getting in the way.
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Re: This is how lame apologetics can get

Post by RubinHighlander » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:11 am

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Re: This is how lame apologetics can get

Post by græy » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:39 am

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:55 am
blazerb wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:35 am
You just need to look at it correctly. Breastworks for Noah: bad. Breastworks for JS: good. Paid clergy among the Nephites: bad. Paid clergy among the LDS: good. Polygamy among the Nephites: bad. Polygamy for JS: good. It's easy.
Oh, I see the problem now. It's this damn brain that keeps getting in the way.
:) You need to learn to have more double standards. That's all.
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