wtfluff wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:14 pm
Palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:03 am
To answer your last question please refer back to my original post on this thread since the answer is already there if you had read just a little more carefully.
Hey, you're right, there it is:
Palerider wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:06 am
I just wonder where Mitt's courage was when he could have called out his church leaders before 1978, when they practiced blatant discrimination. Maybe just got in line like the rest of us?
So what I see in the rest of the thread is you calling Romney out for not living up to a "standard" that you didn't live up to yourself.
Since I should't call that "non-sequitur," do you have another fancy name for it?
Once again: Ugh... I. Can't. Even...
Maybe now I can shut my fingers off.
And as Hagoth put it so well in another place, people do change over time and as they advance and mature their views change as well, hopefully for the better. In 1978 I was all of 23 years old and fairly fresh off my mission and newly married struggling to make a living.
Meanwhile the good Romney raised in a highly political and affluent home was already working in his father's political campaigns and being groomed for leadership and public office. He has since put himself forward as a man worthy of someone we should trust as our leader. A man of great integrity and a straight shooter. A man to whom truth is preeminent.
And yet he has never publicly (and I would bet privately) disavowed his church's racist teachings.
I on the other hand have told my church authorities the truth about the church's history not only regarding their racism but their misogyny, preaching for filthy lucre and various other false doctrines. Rather than await excommunication I chose to resign. I essentially excommunicated the church.
So yes, as I learned and evolved I did what I considered the right thing.
I guess Mitt is just a little slower. Or maybe he loves the honor of men in the church more than he cares to open the box that contains all the dirty little truths that would force him to make a decision between a love of truth and loyalty to a corrupt organization.
I appreciate your calling me out on my immaturity at 23 years of age. As I said, quite openly, I got in line on the priesthood restriction like everyone else, even when I had the nagging idea that it was wrong. I apologise.
Just out of curiosity I'm wondering (since we're being so honest here) have you had your name removed from the records of the church yet? You seem very brave.
On second thought, don't feel obligated to answer that. It's really not my concern.
"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily."
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."