Missionary Shirt Change?

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Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Rob4Hope » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:26 am

Just got a ping from KSL that the LDS church will allow different shift color.

"On Friday, the church announced in a news release that Area Presidencies will have the ability to adjust missionary attire in specific locations to improve and continue 'missionary dignity, safety, effectiveness, approachability and cultural sensitivity.'"

I've completely lost my testimony at this point!

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by wtfluff » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:59 am

Because: The color of shirt that the male members of the sales-force for LD$-Inc. wears is really the most important thing that Elohim could focus on right now. Nothing else in the world could be more important at this moment in time.

Definitely.

Very Important!

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Not Buying It » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:02 pm

wtfluff wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:59 am
Because: The color of shirt that the male members of the sales-force for LD$-Inc. wears is really the most important thing that Elohim could focus on right now. Nothing else in the world could be more important at this moment in time.

Definitely.

Very Important!

[/SARCASM]
The creator of the entire freakin' universe. Not just one measly little planet. Has nothing better to talk to us about than the color of the shirts missionaries wear.

I guess he did inspire his prophet to tell us racism is bad a few days ago, so there's that I guess.

I'm not sure I ever really "[/SARCASM]".
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by moksha » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:07 pm

You can tell this image was put together by the Church PR department. Besides the attire what message are they trying to convey to the general public?

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Corsair » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:20 pm

Will this memo get to the bishops that require a white shirt to bless or pass the sacrament?

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by nibbler » Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:06 pm

Corsair wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:20 pm
Will this memo get to the bishops that require a white shirt to bless or pass the sacrament?
https://www.ldsliving.com/Blue-shirts-a ... dium=email
All elders will continue to wear a white shirt and tie and, in some areas, a suit coat when attending the temple, Sunday worship services, leadership and zone conferences, missionary training centers, baptismal services and other church meetings.
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Thoughtful » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:11 pm

Meanwhile, another bishop got busted for child porn....

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by 2bizE » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:29 pm

Thoughtful wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:11 pm
Meanwhile, another bishop got busted for child porn....
Who?
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Hagoth » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:18 am

Interesting that none of the pictures show a blue shirt AND no tie, even though they know that will be the preferred option. Mormons seem to go immediately to the greatest extreme they are allowed. If the church were to allow suddenly remove coffee from the WoW it would fly off Utah store shelves like toilet paper in a pandemic. Members would take it as their prophetic obligation to follow the prophet by drinking as much coffee as possible.

Given this change, will any missionaries anywhere ever choose to wear a long-sleeved white shirt with a tie again except in situations where it is required?

How much do you want to bet that now missionaries will be just as easily identified everywhere as the tie-less guys in button up, short sleeve blue shirts? The new uniform.

In my mission we used to get mistaken for Immigration agents. Now they will be mistaken for postal workers.
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Rob4Hope » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:57 am

In my mission, the white-shirt/tie and name tag was like wearing a target on your back. I remember one of the most incessant and difficult things of my mission was the inability to "unwind". Why?....because in my mission, we were required to wear our whites whenever we left the flat,...including on PDay.

I saw missionaries crack under the pressure. Getting spit at, chased, harassed all the time was difficult to handle for 2 years. And then there were the masochist elders who kept track of how many times they were spit on so they could show others how they were "persecuted for the name of Christ".

The whole thing is cult.

I think the church is doing this to help KEEP missionaries on their missions. Someone went out and finally acknowledge that setting people apart (so they could be a target) wasn't the best strategy for keeping them there. So, I think this has nothing to do with making the Elders more approachable. I think it has EVERYTHING to do with trying to ease up on the target factor.

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Hagoth » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:00 am

But now they're going to have to deal with this:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=turkey+chasin ... MjgQiYyApo
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by moksha » Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:06 pm

Hagoth wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:00 am
But now they're going to have to deal with this:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=turkey+chasin ... MjgQiYyApo
What a jive bunch of turkeys!
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Thoughtful » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:14 pm

2bizE wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:29 pm
Thoughtful wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:11 pm
Meanwhile, another bishop got busted for child porn....
https://amp.rgj.com/amp/5342674002#aoh= ... 20%251%24s

I am not sure if he is a current bishop but I believe he has been one. His son just graduated BYU.

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Red Ryder » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:16 am

This is one step closer to no garments!!!!!!!

In another 150 years... sigh.

Is it just me or do the kids these days have it too easy?

Cell phones and iPads.
Emails
No tracting
Sister’s can wear pants.
Can call home every week.
Come home early.
Now Shirt color choices?
What’s next? Shorts?
3 month assignments?

Back in my day we had to ride our bikes uphill both ways in ties and suit coats just to check the mail, repeatedly get a door shut in our face, and be home for curfew by 9 pm, and secretly masturbate. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by FiveFingerMnemonic » Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:40 pm

I wore a blue shirt and no tie to our first sacrament meeting back post covid-19. Feeling pretty comfortable about that after this announcement. Masks are the new ties.

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Rob4Hope » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:09 am

Red Ryder wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:16 am

No tracting <-- HUNH?
Are missionaries not required to tract any more?....or is that just on a mission by mission basis?

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by Random » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:18 pm

Rob4Hope wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:09 am
Red Ryder wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:16 am

No tracting <-- HUNH?
Are missionaries not required to tract any more?....or is that just on a mission by mission basis?
Maybe no tracting because of COVID?
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by moksha » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:56 pm

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:40 pm
I wore a blue shirt and no tie to our first sacrament meeting back post covid-19. Feeling pretty comfortable about that after this announcement. Masks are the new ties. Image
How was the Sacrament handled? Did all handlers wear masks and gloves? Did they pass around open trays to everyone or did those in the pews pass the trays to one another?
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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by FiveFingerMnemonic » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:17 am

moksha wrote:
FiveFingerMnemonic wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:40 pm
I wore a blue shirt and no tie to our first sacrament meeting back post covid-19. Feeling pretty comfortable about that after this announcement. Masks are the new ties. Image
How was the Sacrament handled? Did all handlers wear masks and gloves? Did they pass around open trays to everyone or did those in the pews pass the trays to one another?
Yes, gloves and masks, spacing for the cups in the trays, separate tray for cup disposal, spacing for the bread pieces on trays, empty benches in between members so the deacon could pass to everyone individually. It was pretty extensive. Wipes were provided to members to wipe down benches when the meeting concluded.

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Re: Missionary Shirt Change?

Post by 1smartdodog » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:11 pm

Seems like a practical idea to me. Any positive change is good.


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