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Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Thoughtful » Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:13 pm

anyone?

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by moksha » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:27 pm

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/2020-schedule/

Wednesday, July 29th
091 - Smith-Pettit Lecture Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife presented by Dr. Bart D. Ehrman
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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Thoughtful » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:35 pm

moksha wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:27 pm
https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/2020-schedule/

Wednesday, July 29th
091 - Smith-Pettit Lecture Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife presented by Dr. Bart D. Ehrman
It's a great lecture so far.

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Hagoth » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:52 pm

I totally forgot about it and I just finished reading the book.
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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by wtfluff » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:58 am

Started watching the recording of Dr. Ehrman last night, but sleep took over.

I hope they leave it up so I can finish it... :geek:
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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Corsair » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:07 pm

I probably should have brought this up earlier, but I am presenting at Sunstone tomorrow (July 31) at 3:25 PM. The title is: "How Is the Church Really Doing?: Some Uncorrelated Statistics". If you would like to read my real name, see my real face, and hear my real voice, come attend. This is not some talk where I am slamming the church at all. It's almost something I would talk about in actual church. LDS Inc is doing a couple of things right and I connect this to how people might want to interact with the church if they want to start changes.

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by moksha » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:53 pm

Friday, July 31st

265 - How Is the Church Really Doing?: Some Uncorrelated Statistics
3:25 pm-4:25 pm

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The LDS church releases loads of statistics, and they imply many more. This is a brief (and possibly entertaining) look at the LDS Church's demographic profile and how its may need to change in order to meet future demands. Information is drawn from official reports and almanacs. Comparisons will be made with other churches and even the early Christian church. We can’t see the future, but historyans statitstics might help us see its outlines.
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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Thoughtful » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:37 pm

Corsair wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:07 pm
I probably should have brought this up earlier, but I am presenting at Sunstone tomorrow (July 31) at 3:25 PM. The title is: "How Is the Church Really Doing?: Some Uncorrelated Statistics". If you would like to read my real name, see my real face, and hear my real voice, come attend. This is not some talk where I am slamming the church at all. It's almost something I would talk about in actual church. LDS Inc is doing a couple of things right and I connect this to how people might want to interact with the church if they want to start changes.
Very cool. I have a client 3:30-5 so will stalk the recordings.

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Hagoth » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:55 am

It's hard to believe that only a year ago I was sitting in a room with a bunch of other people attending Corsair's presentation in person.
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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by 2bizE » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:28 pm

Corsair wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:07 pm
I probably should have brought this up earlier, but I am presenting at Sunstone tomorrow (July 31) at 3:25 PM. The title is: "How Is the Church Really Doing?: Some Uncorrelated Statistics". If you would like to read my real name, see my real face, and hear my real voice, come attend. This is not some talk where I am slamming the church at all. It's almost something I would talk about in actual church. LDS Inc is doing a couple of things right and I connect this to how people might want to interact with the church if they want to start changes.
I hope your presentation went well.
~2bizE

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by wtfluff » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 am

wtfluff wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:58 am
Started watching the recording of Dr. Ehrman last night, but sleep took over.
Finally made it through the Ehrman video. This real biblical scholar stuff always blows my mind... :shock:
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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Thoughtful » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:12 pm

And then came the "Joseph wasn't a polygamist" by Kenneth Card. :shock:

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Corsair » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:34 am

2bizE wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:28 pm
I hope your presentation went well.
Thank you, it went very well and I got some very nice comments afterwards.
Thoughtful wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:12 pm
And then came the "Joseph wasn't a polygamist" by Kenneth Card. :shock:
I started watching that presentation and it was very painful. His argument seemed to be, "all of these scriptures show that plural marriage is not right and then these statements show that Joseph was not a fan. Therefore, Joseph's reported plural marriage is clearly just misunderstood."

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by Thoughtful » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:53 am

Corsair wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:34 am
Thoughtful wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:12 pm
And then came the "Joseph wasn't a polygamist" by Kenneth Card. :shock:
I started watching that presentation and it was very painful. His argument seemed to be, "all of these scriptures show that plural marriage is not right and then these statements show that Joseph was not a fan. Therefore, Joseph's reported plural marriage is clearly just misunderstood."
Its his testimony. Yikes.

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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by moksha » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:13 pm

wtfluff wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 am
Finally made it through the Ehrman video. This real biblical scholar stuff always blows my mind... :shock:
What do readers need to do to watch this video?
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
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Re: Sunstone Roll Call

Post by wtfluff » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:43 pm

moksha wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:13 pm
wtfluff wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 am
Finally made it through the Ehrman video. This real biblical scholar stuff always blows my mind... :shock:
What do readers need to do to watch this video?
https://www.facebook.com/SunstoneMagazi ... 5007809463
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. -Frater Ravus

Keep the company of those who seek the truth - run from those who have found it -Václav Havel

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