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"We understand repentance to be a joyful thing."

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:24 pm
by deacon blues
https://soundcloud.com/mormonland/a-dee ... pisode-171

I was listening to this interview of Michalyn Steele, a BYU prof. who served on a committee to review racism at BYU. She said she thought the process at BYU required something like a process of repentance. She quotes BYU Pres. Worthin as responding "We (meaning LDS- presumably) understand repentance to be a joyful thing."
That statement sounds well intended, but not quite accurate. It might be said that repentance is a sorrowful experience that ends with a renewed joy. The biggest problem with repentance, I believe, was stated by Jesus in his mote/beam parable: It's easy to see repentance as something for more others, but less for ourselves.
I wonder that I rarely hear of a GA speaking about personal application of repentance to a situation in their own lives. It still gives me a feeling of repentance being a shameful process, not a joyful process.

Re: "We understand repentance to be a joyful thing."

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:46 pm
by wtfluff
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I thought apologizing was part of the "restitution" step in LDS-Inc.'s version of repentance.

Or maybe I'm just old and that version of repentance is no longer valid.

Re: "We understand repentance to be a joyful thing."

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:22 pm
by moksha
I think what President Oaks was trying to say is that repentance and apologies are for humble rather than proud and stiff-necked people.