Origins of the word Jesus Christ

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Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by 2bizE » Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:12 pm

As Easter approached, I have a question for all of you NOM scholars. Why do we call Jesus Christ...Jesus Christ?
I do not believe anyone ever called the person Jesus while he lived. He would have been called the Aramaic or Hebrew name of Joshua. If his name were to be translated into English, it would be Joshua...so why is he called Jesus Christ?
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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by Angel » Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:52 pm

https://allthatsinteresting.com/yeshua-jesus-real-name

Hebrew name was too feminine so....

JW's must be the true church, they were closer to the real name ;)
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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by moksha » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:04 am

I think his name at that time may have been Yeshua ben Yosef. In Islam, they believe the name to have been Īsā ibn Maryam (Arabic: عِيسَى ٱبْنُ مَرْيَمَ‎, lit. 'Jesus, son of Mary.

More Wikipedia: Jesus (IPA: /ˈdʒiːzəs/) is a masculine given name derived from the name Iēsous (Greek: Ἰησοῦς), the Greek form of the Hebrew name Yeshua or Y'shua (Hebrew: ישוע‎).

Christ comes from the Greek word χριστός (chrīstós), meaning "anointed one".
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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by LSOF » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:37 am

The New Testament was originally written in Greek. The translators of the King James Bible mechanically transliterated Greek names: whence Matthew, Timothy, Paul, &c. But the authors of the New Testament also transliterated Hebrew names: whence Elias, Jeremy, Esaias, Judas, Jonas, Mary, and yes, Jesus. These names, if they were transliterated directly from Hebrew, would be respectively, Elijah, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Judah, Jonah, Miriam, and Joshua. (By the way, Judah is also turned into Jude, probably because the name Judas, having belonged to the perfidious disciple, is somehow "cursed"). Jesus Christ, if it were transliterated directly from Hebrew, would probably be Joshua Messiah.

But the Pentateuch was also translated from Greek, which is why Moses is called Moses and not Mosheh.
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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by Hagoth » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:44 pm

I think that name was first uttered when Joseph the carpenter stubbed his toe.
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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by Palerider » Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:18 pm

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:44 pm
I think that name was first uttered when Joseph the carpenter stubbed his toe.
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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by alas » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:26 am

In the New Testament, he is called Jesus of Nazareth. So, I think that may have been what he was called in life, not the son of Joseph or Mary.

As to why Jesus, because it was translated to Greek, then into English. You take any word and translate it through a couple of languages and it changes things. Yes, if it had been translated directly to English, it would be Joshua. But it was translated into Greek, then Latin, then English.

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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by wtfluff » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:30 am

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:44 pm
I think that name was first uttered when Joseph the carpenter stubbed his toe.
Joseph the carpenter liked anachronisms as much as Joseph Smith, eh?
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Re: Origins of the word Jesus Christ

Post by Reuben » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:23 pm

wtfluff wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:30 am
Hagoth wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:44 pm
I think that name was first uttered when Joseph the carpenter stubbed his toe.
Joseph the carpenter liked anachronisms as much as Joseph Smith, eh?
I can see this as a Monty Python sketch.
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