Keeping up with Trump

[Mayan_Elephant]

Hagoth, I just saw this.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/06/business ... index.html

While we have not discussed Theranos here, maybe we should. Now we have WeWork. I am telling you with every sincere bone and DNA and whatever the hell - if you think that a 19 year old dropout was THE criminal at Theranos, you are a sucker. (you, generally speaking not specifically.) If you think that putting a presidential political foe on trial for a loan that was repaid is hunkydory, but that a few hundred people are not criminally liable for WeWork's fraud, then you may not be having a serious conversation. If you think that it is more important to prosecute Trump for a paid loan than to prosecute the underwriters, auditors, bankers, executives, BOARD MEMBERS, and investors in Theranos and WeWork, well, please don't act surprised by the reactions to the trial nor to the political opportunism.

The trial in NYC is politically motivated and it is not consistent with other processes. Process matters. This particular process is nothing more than a farce for the justice system and a free campaign for the populist candidate.

[hmb]

Serious question: Can a felon serving time in a penitentiary simultaneously serve time as US president? Right now it's kind of looking like Trump might be on track for that Bizarro Land collision of realities.

It would seem that if you lose the right to vote, you should lose the right to serve. Who knows?

[Mayan_Elephant]

Serious question: Can a felon serving time in a penitentiary simultaneously serve time as US president? Right now it's kind of looking like Trump might be on track for that Bizarro Land collision of realities.

It would seem that if you lose the right to vote, you should lose the right to serve. Who knows?

Now do the right to vote in an election without mass mail-out ballots. And then do the right to not have your preferred candidate subject to kangaroo courts and political prosecutions.

You have a great point, I do not think that the Tiger King should be eligible to run for the Senate in Pennsylvania, though.... it might not be an unreasonable upgrade. Neither do I think that a person who exercised his right to spy on a campaign and interfere with an election should lose the right to have more ballots counted in his favor.

In any case, it is fairly obvious how we got here.

[Mayan_Elephant]

Yes? No?

[moksha]

Trump master court calendar:

https://www.justsecurity.org/88039/trum ... d-to-know/

[Mayan_Elephant]

Trump master court calendar:

https://www.justsecurity.org/88039/trum ... d-to-know/

Remind me again where the penguins lie. I thought you thought that using the courts to prosecute political opponents was fascist fascist.

[moksha]

Trump master court calendar:

https://www.justsecurity.org/88039/trum ... d-to-know/

Remind me again where the penguins lie. I thought you thought that using the courts to prosecute political opponents was fascist fascist.

The good thing about police is that they protect us from criminals. The good thing about the court system is that it enforces the laws. Having a criminal President is somewhat new, but even democracies require their Presidents to obey the law and the courts need to enforce that law.

[Mayan_Elephant]

Trump master court calendar:

https://www.justsecurity.org/88039/trum ... d-to-know/

Remind me again where the penguins lie. I thought you thought that using the courts to prosecute political opponents was fascist fascist.

The good thing about police is that they protect us from criminals. The good thing about the court system is that it enforces the laws. Having a criminal President is somewhat new, but even democracies require their Presidents to obey the law and the courts need to enforce that law.

You got it buddy. And yes, having a criminal President is somewhat new. I am used to it though. The last three years have certainly been interesting for exactly what you described.

Weaponized police and weaponized courts are not the same as just regular police and regular courts. Weaponizing the judicial system will get a predictable reaction.

[moksha]

Weaponizing the judicial system will get a predictable reaction.

Yeah, the DOJ under Barr during the Trump era as well as the DOJ under Mitchell during the Nixon administration had that quality. The legal system should only pursue true crime rather than engage in crime.

[Mayan_Elephant]

Weaponizing the judicial system will get a predictable reaction.

Yeah, the DOJ under Barr during the Trump era as well as the DOJ under Mitchell during the Nixon administration had that quality. The legal system should only pursue true crime rather than engage in crime.

Oh boy. Mookshy, show me your awesome examples of how Barr weaponized the legal system.

Hint: “go google woogle and bing bing and duck duck go blow” is not evidence or an example.

[moksha]

Hint: “go google woogle and bing bing and duck duck go blow” is not evidence or an example.

Doing baby talk with you is not productive. Look, I understand you want to challenge everything said about Trump. Trump is the Republican leader and you want to defend all his bad deeds that have come home to roost. When you challenge others just realize that what you say comes without any evidence.

[Mayan_Elephant]

Hint: “go google woogle and bing bing and duck duck go blow” is not evidence or an example.

Doing baby talk with you is not productive. Look, I understand you want to challenge everything said about Trump. Trump is the Republican leader and you want to defend all his bad deeds that have come home to roost. When you challenge others just realize that what you say comes without any evidence.

Wrong. I am not defending Trump. I am challenging your assertion that Barr corrupted the DOJ. You have exclaimed my point which is that you have zero evidence for your conspiracy - again. Thanks, buddy.

[moksha]

Wrong. I am not defending Trump. I am challenging your assertion that Barr corrupted the DOJ. You have exclaimed my point which is that you have zero evidence for your conspiracy - again. Thanks, buddy.

According to Barr, Trump put pressure on him to go after opponents. Can you think back to when Trump was pressuring the President of Ukraine to come up with political dirt on his opponent? It was on all the non-MAGA news.

[Mayan_Elephant]

Wrong. I am not defending Trump. I am challenging your assertion that Barr corrupted the DOJ. You have exclaimed my point which is that you have zero evidence for your conspiracy - again. Thanks, buddy.

According to Barr, Trump put pressure on him to go after opponents. Can you think back to when Trump was pressuring the President of Ukraine to come up with political dirt on his opponent? It was on all the non-MAGA news.

So are you saying Barr was corrupt for not doing what Trump wanted? What specific media does not want to make America great?

[moksha]

So are you saying Barr was corrupt for not doing what Trump wanted?

Barr does deserve some credit for not bowing to Trump's wish to help him remain an unelected dictator in the White House.

[Mayan_Elephant]

So are you saying Barr was corrupt for not doing what Trump wanted?

Barr does deserve some credit for not bowing to Trump's wish to help him remain an unelected dictator in the White House.

He also deserves credit for not serving baked penguin at his family's Thanksgiving feast, not burying the heads and hands of hookers in his back yard or his front yard, and not putting Greta in prison for prophesying falsely. Seems like a fine and not corrupt dude. Don't you agree?

I did hear though that he does smoke Cuban and Dominican cigars occasionally.

[Mayan_Elephant]

It was on all the non-MAGA news.

Hey mockshy, still looking for a clarification on which media agencies specifically do not want America to be great. When you find them, where do you think they fit on the above bell curve?

[Mayan_Elephant]

Now this one is funny.

“I hope that there are options and alternatives that reflect the important challenges that we’re facing, and that reflect leadership to meet those challenges, but that choice can never be Donald Trump because a vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election that you ever get to vote in,” [Liz Cheney] told NBC’s Savannah Guthrie on “Today.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... -election/

This whopper definitely needs to be unpacked.

Clearly, this is just conspiracy porn. Over a hundred million votes have been cast for Trump, and we had subsequent elections. What she is doing is damaging the credibility of the present election, but she does not seem to give a damn about that.

Let me put it this way, for all y'all. I dare you to answer these three questions:

• Is it legal to say, "Make your vote count by texting "Hillary" to 555-555-1234"?

• Is it legal to say, "A vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election that you

ever get to vote in”?

• If Dirty Bird votes for Trump next year, will that be the last election?