Romney and Trump's Tirades

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Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by moksha » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:01 am

If Mitt Romney had been chosen for Secretary of State when he was interviewing for that job, how do you think he would have handled Trump's constant anger tirades with his staff and cabinet?
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by RubinHighlander » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:00 pm

That's an interesting question birdman. It's been somewhat amusing seeing Romney try to play coy with Trump, while trying to maintain his foot in the party.

I'm so sick of tired of all the crap the blues and reds keep slinging at each other while they accomplish nothing, expect spending our hard earned tax dollars on record trillion dollar deficit BS! I need that bumper sticker for the next election that says "Literally any functioning adult!"
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by Corsair » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:38 pm

moksha wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:01 am
If Mitt Romney had been chosen for Secretary of State when he was interviewing for that job, how do you think he would have handled Trump's constant anger tirades with his staff and cabinet?
High turnover is so common in the Trump administration, I think it is virtually by design, not as a bug. I think it gives Trump a way to lump blame on outgoing staff. Romney would simply not have survived.

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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by moksha » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:31 am

Romney showed courage when he voted to allow witnesses in the Senate impeachment trial.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by Just This Guy » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:18 am

I wonder if this whole thing about going against the rest of the Senate republicans is a bid to suck up to Republicans who are not fans of Trump as a way to go for another shot at president.

Of course with Utah pushing to have him impeached as senator (a bid likely to be ruled unconstitutional), you wonder who would actually support him as a alternate to trump?
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by moksha » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:14 pm

Just This Guy wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:18 am
Of course with Utah pushing to have him impeached as senator (a bid likely to be ruled unconstitutional), you wonder who would actually support him as an alternate to trump?
Romney's plight is similar to an honest whiskey distributor who stood up to the mafia. The mafia brooks no dissent and so wishes to rub him out. That is a shame because the mafia is a hopelessly corrupt organization. If anything, Romney deserves praise from all who oppose organized crime.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by moksha » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:32 pm

I noticed that the Sinclair Broadcast Group has begun attacking Mitt Romney as part of the Trump retribution. Wonder if Ukraine can be encouraged to manufacture dirt on Mitt?
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by Hagoth » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:19 pm

moksha wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:32 pm
I noticed that the Sinclair Broadcast Group has begun attacking Mitt Romney as part of the Trump retribution.
I was wondering why KUTV was singling out Mitt on a story that also applies to many other politicians. Makes sense now.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by Hagoth » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:06 pm

Man, I have to hand it to Mitt for taking his balls back today. No doubt is party will put them in the vice to punish him for listening to his conscience.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by RubinHighlander » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:43 am

Hagoth wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:06 pm
Man, I have to hand it to Mitt for taking his balls back today. No doubt is party will put them in the vice to punish him for listening to his conscience.
I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I've never been a big fan of Mitt, but that was a boss move on his part, standing up for principles over political party. Do you think it kills his chances for any future presidential runs? I"m guessing it does.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by Hagoth » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:27 am

On his previous run, Mitt was heavily scrutinized by the Evangelical undercurrent of the Republican party for not being the right kind of Christian and he ended up compromising his ideals to try to please them. I think he learned a lesson from that. Now he stands up and proclaims that it is because of his oath before God that he cannot join the mob and turn away from truth for the benefit of the party. The other legislators who claim to be primarily motivated by serving God, and who like to make that the differentiator between themselves and Democrats, can't afford to show much tolerance for a "mock" Christian who has shown a light on their hypocrisy by appearing to have a backbone in valuing God over politics, so I suspect they will do whatever they can to harpoon his career.

Maybe he should consider changing parties. There are a lot of Democrats who believe in God but don't have much use for Tea Party ideology.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by moksha » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:43 pm

"Wrong, wrong, wrong move" suggests Rep. Jim Jordan to Mitt Romney, "He may be a criminal scumbag, but he is our criminal scumbag!"

Don Jr. thinks Romney should be kicked out of the Republican caucus for having the moral fortitude to stand up to Il Patrone. As Don Jr. pointed out, "All the rest of the jellyfish were content just to float alongside Il Duce." "Romney had to go out of his way to evolve a spine."
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by crossmyheart » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:56 pm

This is fascinating to me to see play out. Wasn't Mitt a Democrat when he was governor of Mass?

But you know Trump was a democrat before also...

Anyway- I will bet Mitt now announces he is going to challenge Trump for the GOP nomination.

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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by Hagoth » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:23 pm

Now he's being censured by the Utah legislature. Trump's popularity is at it's highest and Utah leads the pack at 59% because he is such a shining example of all of the things we teach our kids to be in Primary and YM/YW.

It kind of makes sense, when you think about it. If you can rationalize a prophet of God sneaking around with teenage girls behind his wife's back I guess it's not too much of a stretch to overlook a US president "grabbing them by the p*ssy" and paying off porn stars that he was having affairs with behind his wife's back. One eternal round.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by jfro18 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:32 am

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:23 pm
Now he's being censured by the Utah legislature. Trump's popularity is at it's highest and Utah leads the pack at 59% because he is such a shining example of all of the things we teach our kids to be in Primary and YM/YW.

It kind of makes sense, when you think about it. If you can rationalize a prophet of God sneaking around with teenage girls behind his wife's back I guess it's not too much of a stretch to overlook a US president "grabbing them by the p*ssy" and paying off porn stars that he was having affairs with behind his wife's back. One eternal round.
My favorite thing to learn was that the artist John McNaughton (sp?) is a Mormon artist, and he is also apparently heading some sort of Mormon splinter group... which is just amazing.

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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by oliblish » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:29 pm

jfro18 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:32 am
My favorite thing to learn was that the artist John McNaughton (sp?) is a Mormon artist, and he is also apparently heading some sort of Mormon splinter group... which is just amazing.
Do you have any more information on this splinter group? I have never heard of this.
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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by jfro18 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:49 pm

oliblish wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:29 pm
jfro18 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:32 am
My favorite thing to learn was that the artist John McNaughton (sp?) is a Mormon artist, and he is also apparently heading some sort of Mormon splinter group... which is just amazing.
Do you have any more information on this splinter group? I have never heard of this.
https://www.facebook.com/lindsay.park.7 ... 2728931282 - from Lindsay Hansen Park... amazing stuff.

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Re: Romney and Trump's Tirades

Post by moksha » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:25 am

The Atlantic Magazine has an article about what big sums will be spent on the upcoming election and targeted media:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ar/605530/

Are any of you already receiving this targeting?
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