Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre

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Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre

Post by Ghost » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:14 pm

I wasn't familiar with the Brewsterites other than maybe hearing the name in a list of Mormon splinter groups, but I stumbled upon this video the other day about an event known as the "Oatman Massacre" and found it interesting.

https://youtu.be/16_y_Qh0NFg

This is the only related post I could find on NOM. I'm unfamiliar with the show Hell on Wheels, but it's always fun to see Mormon history depicted in media.
FiveFingerMnemonic wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:03 am
There is a scene in Hell on Wheels where Brigham Young attempts to woo the Olive Oatman character (tattoo faced woman from a mormon breakoff sect) back into his fold. This meeting reminded me of that.

https://youtu.be/kfIVsvpaZ98
This is Olive Oatman, who was enslaved by some Native Americans who killed most of her family as they traveled to California:

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Re: Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre

Post by FiveFingerMnemonic » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:52 pm

Yep if you happen to watch Hell on Wheels on Netflix, Olive Oatman is the influence for one of the main characters with her famous indian tattooed face.

Scene where Brigham tries to get Eva (Olive Oatman) back into the fold (note some of the historical inaccuracy and liberties taken with the Oatman story:

https://youtu.be/kfIVsvpaZ98


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Re: Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre

Post by Hagoth » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:59 am

Fascinating story!

The Brewsterites are an interesting group. As I understand it, David Whitmer became the leader if the Brewsterite church at one point, with James C. Brewster acting as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. Like Joseph, Brewster had been visited by Moroni and dictated books of scripture using a seer stone.
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Re: Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre

Post by Reuben » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:07 pm

Hagoth wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:59 am
Fascinating story!

The Brewsterites are an interesting group. As I understand it, David Whitmer became the leader if the Brewsterite church at one point, with James C. Brewster acting as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. Like Joseph, Brewster had been visited by Moroni and dictated books of scripture using a seer stone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Brewster

Disfellowshipped at age 11 in Kirtland for persistently claiming to be a prophet. Interesting guy!
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Re: Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre

Post by Apologeticsislying » Sat May 02, 2020 8:29 am

Reuben wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:07 pm
Hagoth wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:59 am
Fascinating story!

The Brewsterites are an interesting group. As I understand it, David Whitmer became the leader if the Brewsterite church at one point, with James C. Brewster acting as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. Like Joseph, Brewster had been visited by Moroni and dictated books of scripture using a seer stone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Brewster

Disfellowshipped at age 11 in Kirtland for persistently claiming to be a prophet. Interesting guy!
Interesting. Early Mormonism WANTED everyone to be a prophet, so when you became one, then you got punished.....Lol! We didn't mean it literally you idiots! We meant it spiritually. There is only ONE literal true prophet, now all the rest of you shut up and get in line of obedience to him only.
The same energy that emerges from the fountain of eternity into time, is the Holy Grail at the center of the universe of the inexhaustible vitality in each of our hearts. The Holy Grail, like the Kingdom of God, is within. -Joseph Campbell-

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