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I think it is a bit of a reversal that you are acknowledging that Trump is an asshole. Let's add a Supervillain and someone not to be trusted with the Presidency. Trump encouraging Putin to invade a NATO country is further proof of that, on top of the 91 felony indictments.Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:30 pmBut maybe you acknowledge that Trump is an asshole. If so, thats progress.
At no point ever have I not considered Trump an asshole. Being an asshole makes him electable.moksha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:26 amI think it is a bit of a reversal that you are acknowledging that Trump is an asshole. Let's add a Supervillain and someone not to be trusted with the Presidency. Trump encouraging Putin to invade a NATO country is further proof of that, on top of the 91 felony indictments.Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:30 pmBut maybe you acknowledge that Trump is an asshole. If so, thats progress.
Offer them a corrupt dictator like Trump, eh?Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 pmThis here is why people want an asshole for president.
No. They want someone that will tell those clowns to fuck off. The exact fucking opposite of what you just said. But your gaslighting is still darling, wee penguin.moksha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:08 pmOffer them a corrupt dictator like Trump, eh?Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 pmThis here is why people want an asshole for president.
The MAGA Q-Anons who wish to end our democracy through the pushing of their Big Lie are the ones who must be opposed. Their offering of Trump is highly problematic.Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:33 pmNo. They want someone that will tell those clowns to fuck off. The exact fucking opposite of what you just said. But your gaslighting is still darling, wee penguin.moksha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:08 pmOffer them a corrupt dictator like Trump, eh?Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 pmThis here is why people want an asshole for president.
This is where you and I differ, lil penguin. Accusing MAGA Q-Anons of wishing to end a democracy, while clowns are pushing for, excusing and believing in mail-out and mail-in ballots, is laughable. So damn funny. And there is no open discussion when you are blatantly maligning people so don't bother blaming f***** and shits and damnits.moksha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:47 pmThe MAGA Q-Anons who wish to end our democracy through the pushing of their Big Lie are the ones who must be opposed. Their offering of Trump is highly problematic.Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:33 pmNo. They want someone that will tell those clowns to fuck off. The exact fucking opposite of what you just said. But your gaslighting is still darling, wee penguin.
BTW, offensive words are not good for an open discussion.
Right now I am able to mail in my Utah ballot for elections. I want that to continue.
Then stop complaining if your country goes to shit and the elections are not credible. And certainly stop blaming others for not wanting a democratic process when in fact you wish to no longer have credible elections.
Trump's desire to remain in power despite losing the election should concern us all. Pushing the Big Lie means you do not wish for credible elections. You want Trump because as you say, "He's an asshole".Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:45 amAnd certainly stop blaming others for not wanting a democratic process when in fact you wish to no longer have credible elections.
Your desire to lie means you desire to lie. Your desire to imagine what I think means you imagine shit.moksha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:44 pmTrump's desire to remain in power despite losing the election should concern us all. Pushing the Big Lie means you do not wish for credible elections. You want Trump because as you say, "He's an asshole".Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:45 amAnd certainly stop blaming others for not wanting a democratic process when in fact you wish to no longer have credible elections.
But they had to do it.The biggest mistake that the deep state / establishment / uniparty ever made was stealing the 2020 election.
If they didn’t, Trump’s second term would almost be over now. The MSM would still have the Covid death counter up and running and the 800k Covid deaths that happened under Biden would have all been blamed on Trump. More people than ever would have been scared into supporting their ultimate weapon, censorship.
Trump would have most likely been impeached a couple more times. Liberals, instead of getting six boosters, would have just been blaming him for the vaccine not working. Democrats would be running someone young and without dementia in November. The America First movement probably would have started to stall out. And people would have never had their eyes opened by the true awfulness of a President Biden.
But they just couldn’t help themselves and now they’re f’d.
AP thinks Trump nailed it I guess. Interesting penmanship.Koch pulls out of Nikki Haley after Trump creams her in South Carolina primary.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -bloodbathTrump predicts ‘bloodbath’ if he loses election and claims ‘Biden beat Obama’
Republican candidate insists at Ohio rally that Biden had beaten ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ in elections that never took place.
Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, confused the crowd at an appearance in Vandalia by insisting that Biden had beaten “Barack Hussein Obama” in elections nationally that never took place. “You know what’s interesting? Joe Biden won against Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone ever heard of him? Every swing state, Biden beat Obama but in every other state, he got killed,” Trump said. “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.”
If there is a hoax and a lie, there is s wee penguin with a theory to conspire. You go wee penguin. Is there s hoax you love the best?moksha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:24 pmhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -bloodbathTrump predicts ‘bloodbath’ if he loses election and claims ‘Biden beat Obama’
Republican candidate insists at Ohio rally that Biden had beaten ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ in elections that never took place.
Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, confused the crowd at an appearance in Vandalia by insisting that Biden had beaten “Barack Hussein Obama” in elections nationally that never took place. “You know what’s interesting? Joe Biden won against Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone ever heard of him? Every swing state, Biden beat Obama but in every other state, he got killed,” Trump said. “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.”
https://x.com/watchTENETnow/status/1769 ... 50726?s=20moksha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:24 pmhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -bloodbathTrump predicts ‘bloodbath’ if he loses election and claims ‘Biden beat Obama’
Republican candidate insists at Ohio rally that Biden had beaten ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ in elections that never took place.
Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, confused the crowd at an appearance in Vandalia by insisting that Biden had beaten “Barack Hussein Obama” in elections nationally that never took place. “You know what’s interesting? Joe Biden won against Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone ever heard of him? Every swing state, Biden beat Obama but in every other state, he got killed,” Trump said. “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.”
If I remember right, you are a big fan of the Big Lie of a stolen election.Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:39 amIf there is a hoax and a lie, there is s wee penguin with a theory to conspire. You go wee penguin. Is there s hoax you love the best?
No, dumb penguin. That is not how it works. You seem to want to play big hoax games with big hoax lies. Have you considered not being such a sucker for hoaxes?moksha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:52 pmIf I remember right, you are a big fan of the Big Lie of a stolen election.Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:39 amIf there is a hoax and a lie, there is s wee penguin with a theory to conspire. You go wee penguin. Is there s hoax you love the best?
What do you think Trump meant by saying there is going to be a bloodbath if he doesn't get elected? I think it meant he was inviting his cult members to go once again into civil insurrection mode.
So the quotation of Trump's own words from Truth Social becomes a hoax if those words are embarrassing? Hope that does not lead to Trump's proposed bloodbath.Mayan_Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:47 amNo, dumb penguin. That is not how it works. You seem to want to play big hoax games with big hoax lies. Have you considered not being such a sucker for hoaxes?