

Whether we like it or not, we all belong to two types of government.
You're wrong about me. I belong to no church and have no need of spirituality.SaidNobody wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 pmWhether we like it or not, we all belong to two types of government.
Church and state.
Everyone has spiritual needs. Everyone had spiritual identity.
The US government is intentionally sparse in the realm of theology.
And Churches are intentionally sparse on athoritarian power. Churches are most likely a socialist type government.
But there is a reason they are different.
Acts 4:32 Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. 34 Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35 and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need.
Some people take for granted what they have. The language you use, the concepts of humanity that you use, all are given to you. When you come out of the womb, you are not much different than other naked monkeys. If you were placed among wolves, they might raise you as one of their own, and you would think that you were one of them.LSOF wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:43 pmYou're wrong about me. I belong to no church and have no need of spirituality.SaidNobody wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 pmWhether we like it or not, we all belong to two types of government.
Church and state.
Everyone has spiritual needs. Everyone had spiritual identity.
The US government is intentionally sparse in the realm of theology.
And Churches are intentionally sparse on athoritarian power. Churches are most likely a socialist type government.
But there is a reason they are different.
Morals are not spirituality. Value judgements (upon which morality is founded) are not spirituality. Ghosts, dudes with jackals' heads, genocidal space wizards, and six-armed blue men with lotus feet are neither necessary nor sufficient for morality. I have no spiritual needs. Religious people are and were so many only because irreligious people have been made outlaws by numerous states in diverse lands all throughout history, and even now, religious parents teach their children to execrate irreligion. Even now, the likes of David Barton and Glenn Beck construct counterfactual histories alleging that America is founded on Christian principles (as if freedom of religion is compatible with "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" and "Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Christ is the Lord").SaidNobody wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:02 pmSome people take for granted what they have. The language you use, the concepts of humanity that you use, all are given to you. When you come out of the womb, you are not much different than other naked monkeys. If you were placed among wolves, they might raise you as one of their own, and you would think that you were one of them.
We have a rich heritage that is kept alive because of our faith. Your morals? They are beliefs. You relationships, mostly based on ideas worked out by religious people. Your hope? Your ambitions, they are not products that nature gave you, but things spiritual ideals formed and let you choose from.
Everyone has spiritual aspects to them. Thousands of years of fighting, we freed those elements from the state. They are symbols of freedom now. But if the state becomes the authority on morals, we will all go back to hell.
Honor those that worked to keep religion separate from the state. Do not pretend that you don't have spiritual needs. or the state will eventually define your spiritual identity. Choose a religion, or one will be chosen for you.
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