Giving The Church A Chance To Handle My Truth

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Re: Giving The Church A Chance To Handle My Truth

Post by Give It Time » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:04 pm

Rob4Hope wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:59 pm
Give It Time wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:07 pm
As I said, if this church is the Lord's church, it should be able to handle people who don't fit the mold. I'm not talking about changing doctrine. I'm talking about basic decency.

Thank you, so much. See? That's another empathic response and they're all very helpful.
Small rant. Not directed at anyone....

This is one of those things that irks me. VT and HT seem shallow in a big way, for several reasons. We have to be 'assigned' to love our neighbor?..and watch and help them?...and love them?

I've learned something in my past. Love--the kind that makes a difference and matters--is not glamorous. Its not glamorous to hold someones head as they throw up; its not glamorous to have someone sob and get their snot all over your shirt because they are weeping uncontrollably; its not glamorous to have to get up in the middle of the movie, or the dinner, or the award ceremony and race down the freeway to pick up a stranded friend who is desperate to get help and is frightened. Its not GLAMOROUS to be the only one helping a desperate friend move, late into the dark hours of the night because the rest are away on vacation and couldn't miss the boat on the lake. ITS NOT GLAMOROUS to be the one who cries with the friend when the word "cancer" is said. ITS NOT GLAMOROUS TO BE THE ONE WHO WIPES UP THE DEFECATION WHEN THE CHILD HAS AN ACCIDENT AND YOU ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TENDER FEELINGS OF THE CHILD THAN THE RUDE NASTY PEOPLE AROUND!

YEH,...It just aint GLAMOROUS!

I've learned something in the process of being hurt, scared and having a few spiritual bones here and there broken and mended not so well. I've learned that the person who matters is NOT the big-shot who gets up and tells everyone how great they are, or how great the next apostle in line is. I've learned that the person who matters is NOT the person signing the check, or making the decisions on what to do during next youth conference.

The person who matters TO THE ONE HURTING is the not-so glamorous one...its the one getting blood, sweat and sh!t on their clothes because they are down in the trench WASHING FEET!....like someone named JESUS would have done!

Some of these "glamorous" people need to read a little about this guy named JESUS and some of the crap that came down on him cuz he wasn't too glamorous...

Nuff said.
This was fabulous!

My saying is "love is messy".
At 70 years-old, my older self would tell my younger self to use the words, "f*ck off" much more frequently. --Helen Mirren

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Re: Giving The Church A Chance To Handle My Truth

Post by Give It Time » Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:29 pm

Bishop's cool with it. He believes that honest, real discussions about how life isn't perfect and how that fits in the gospel are needed. We agree the actual ward members may be a tougher sell. Anyway, I've got buy in from the big man and that's no small thing.
At 70 years-old, my older self would tell my younger self to use the words, "f*ck off" much more frequently. --Helen Mirren

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Re: Giving The Church A Chance To Handle My Truth

Post by Give It Time » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:57 pm

I just got word my VT has been changed. This has been my request. My new VT, a few years back, talked about one (maybe two of her sons) having a faith crisis. She said she didn't even know how to celebrate Christmas. Her son and my son were, at one time, very good friends, but have since grown apart. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that son of hers is gay. Lastly, she's a teacher at the high school level, so she'll have seen and been privy to some pretty tough stuff. She'll also have had at least some basic training in handling difficult situations.

Color me impressed.

I'm actually optimistic.
At 70 years-old, my older self would tell my younger self to use the words, "f*ck off" much more frequently. --Helen Mirren

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