NOMference Spring 2026, Sunday afternoon

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Wow we get it... yOu ArE sO CoOl!!!! :roll:
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Oof, not a fan of the story of the mixed faith or mixed commitment level families. Especially the bit about the stake president guilting the dude about his wife going to the temple.

Mormons make the middle way soooooooo unnecessarily hard.
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Geez...he's giving the "oaks is the best ever" talk.... :roll: :roll:
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We have to listen to Dallas one more time.....
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Ugh, Renlund truly is the most boring speaker, and that's saying something.
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Well, that was relatively painless....
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Thanks for keeping up with this MoPag.

I would have participated more but at the time this site was taking several minutes just to load the page and would often time out. Any time I wanted to post it was weighing whether or not to wait on the site to load the reply page and crossing my fingers that I wouldn't get a timeout on the submit. A simple two word reply was a several minute time commitment waiting on the site to load.

All in all, conference was more Jesus than any conference I can remember in the past. Being the critical doofus that I am, I'd still rather hear talks focus on Jesus' actual teachings than talks focused on name dropping Jesus or only giving counsel that suggests that merely reflecting on what Jesus did is the panacea to all of life's problems.

I was watching conference hoping for two things:
  1. Don't canonize the family proclamation. They've no reason to, members already consider it canon, but I'd interpret formalizing it as coming from a place of hate. This was only on my radar because Oaks is the prophet.
  2. Say something relevant about what's going on in the world today.
Conference passed on the first point but I feel failed on the second. Oaks gave his talk, an extension of the peacemakers talk given by Nelson. It's better than nothing but unfortunately neither Oaks or Nelson got into specifics. The talks were so vague that no one is going to walk away being challenged.

Political rant ahead. Skip if you need to.

Nelson gave his talk in 2023, before the 2024 election, yet the majority of members in the USA continued to support a politician that led an insurrection and continued to support the political party that protected (and protects) him from any consequence. Nelson's talk didn't amount to a hill of beans. He didn't get specific enough. He didn't challenge anyone.

Oaks' talk was more of the same. A feel good talk for both sides. One side will feel he spoke out against the warmongers, the other side won't even recognize their political views contribute towards warmongering. The needle ain't going to move based on that talk either.
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nibbler wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 5:40 am Thanks for keeping up with this MoPag.

I would have participated more but at the time this site was taking several minutes just to load the page and would often time out. Any time I wanted to post it was weighing whether or not to wait on the site to load the reply page and crossing my fingers that I wouldn't get a timeout on the submit. A simple two word reply was a several minute time commitment waiting on the site to load.

All in all, conference was more Jesus than any conference I can remember in the past. Being the critical doofus that I am, I'd still rather hear talks focus on Jesus' actual teachings than talks focused on name dropping Jesus or only giving counsel that suggests that merely reflecting on what Jesus did is the panacea to all of life's problems.

I was watching conference hoping for two things:
  1. Don't canonize the family proclamation. They've no reason to, members already consider it canon, but I'd interpret formalizing it as coming from a place of hate. This was only on my radar because Oaks is the prophet.
  2. Say something relevant about what's going on in the world today.
Conference passed on the first point but I feel failed on the second. Oaks gave his talk, an extension of the peacemakers talk given by Nelson. It's better than nothing but unfortunately neither Oaks or Nelson got into specifics. The talks were so vague that no one is going to walk away being challenged.

Political rant ahead. Skip if you need to.

Nelson gave his talk in 2023, before the 2024 election, yet the majority of members in the USA continued to support a politician that led an insurrection and continued to support the political party that protected (and protects) him from any consequence. Nelson's talk didn't amount to a hill of beans. He didn't get specific enough. He didn't challenge anyone.

Oaks' talk was more of the same. A feel good talk for both sides. One side will feel he spoke out against the warmongers, the other side won't even recognize their political views contribute towards warmongering. The needle ain't going to move based on that talk either.
I could not get on at all most times I tried, and the one time it finally loaded, then it would not let me comment at all. Good to know it is not my system somehow.

I like that talks are focusing more of Jesus, but everything felt so bland. Even the Christ centered talks did not feel uplifting, just kind of bland. Maybe I just need more inspiration and comfort than these flat people can provide.

We need an antidote to Hegseth’s warmongering Jesus, and that probably takes actually recognizing that some people are using Jesus’s name to happily kill people and the real Jesus weeps over that.
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