A one-liner that captures your disaffection

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by wtfluff » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:37 am

Forgot about this one:

"I'm allergic to Fake Green Silk."
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by DPRoberts » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:06 pm

I outgrew it.
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. -anon
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by deacon blues » Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:19 am

Is this a time and place where we can rationally and critically, YES CRITICALLY, discuss the truth claims of the Church? If not when and where?

This is something I dreamed last night. I dreamed I was saying it in a F&T meeting.🤔
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Reuben » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:53 am

I don't need your kings.
Learn to doubt the stories you tell about yourselves and your adversaries.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Newme » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:24 am

I know the church isn’t true in many ways - and is evil in some ways.

Take the best, leave the rest.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Newme » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:29 am

Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:08 pm
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
I like that. It’s similar to “I outgrew the cult.”
General authorities are substitutes for parental authorities.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by DPRoberts » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:08 pm

Newme wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:29 am
Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:08 pm
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
I like that. It’s similar to “I outgrew the cult.”
General authorities are substitutes for parental authorities.
Parental substitutes they were for me, particularly as I lost my parents earlier than most. And when I knew GAs were not inspired it felt like losing another parent, though less intense. That is one thing i outgrew. I also outgrew magical thinking, small-mindedness, religious elitism, judgemental thinking, and the need to think I know what, if anything, follows this life and how to control the outcome. I outgrew the need for certainty.

My three word one-liner has very deep meaning for me because I feel that my growth was inhibited in so many ways by TSCC. I could come up with a great deal more one-liners, but "I outgrew it" encapsulates a great quantity of meaning for someone who has experienced that growth.
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. -anon
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Angel » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:48 am

Heirarchy with middlemen vs. God is no respecter of persons.

Dogmatic mob mentality vs personal relashionship with God.

Follow the leader, vs follow your conscience.
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by stuck » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:36 am

If God is an unchanging God, why does the church change so much?

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Red Ryder » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:56 am

DPRoberts wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:08 pm
Parental substitutes they were for me, particularly as I lost my parents earlier than most. And when I knew GAs were not inspired it felt like losing another parent, though less intense. That is one thing i outgrew. I also outgrew magical thinking, small-mindedness, religious elitism, judgemental thinking, and the need to think I know what, if anything, follows this life and how to control the outcome. I outgrew the need for certainty.

My three word one-liner has very deep meaning for me because I feel that my growth was inhibited in so many ways by TSCC. I could come up with a great deal more one-liners, but "I outgrew it" encapsulates a great quantity of meaning for someone who has experienced that growth.
I’ve never considered the idea of GA’s as substitute parents before. It really fits in some circumstances and even the idea that HF/church were pushed as such. Now you have my head spinning.

Perhaps “I grew up!” works too.
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Keewon » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:06 pm

Red Ryder wrote:Perhaps “I grew up!” works too.
Or, paraphrasing Paul: "When I grew up I put away childish things"

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by 2bizE » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:42 pm

I can’t believe I actually believed all that crap.
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Evil_Bert » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:09 am

Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.

No matter what I do, it isn't changing. Why bash my head against the wall.
Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Nonny » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:56 pm

I realized that the values of the top leadership of the church don’t align with mine.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Apologeticsislying » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:24 pm

It's not mine, but it's very good

I found out I am not having a faith crisis, the church is having a truth crisis.
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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by ulmite » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:44 am

I cannot support a power structure that treats my gay sister like crap.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by GoodBoy » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:12 pm

I care about the truth.
Always been the good kid, but I wanted to know more, and to find and test truth.

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by Ghost » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:38 pm

I guess mine might be something like this: "How disappointing to discover that not only religion but absolutely everything appears to be made-up nonsense."

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Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

Post by DPRoberts » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:04 pm

I cannot devote my life to an organization I find to be neither true nor truthful.

I cannot fit reality inside the church's box.

With a nod to Hermey: What's good about Mormonism isn't unique and what's unique isn't good.

I found blind obedience to be incompatible with personal progression.
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. -anon
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born

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